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<blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 990157" data-attributes="member: 3570">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussionExactly, which makes your dispute utterly pointless and unprovable, and your claim that &quot;its not true&quot; total malarkey.&nbsp; We're talking about geeked out fan wanking to fill in the blanks of a fictional story.&nbsp; For time travel stories this can be kind of fun, and my way is not only possible under the &quot;rules&quot; of the story, but its also free of paradoxes, something that T3 makes quite clear Fate doesn't like.They didn't make the &quot;rest of the timeline self-correcting&quot;.&nbsp; All the deaths and collateral damage caused by the Terminators when they went to the past didn't get undone, nor did the deaths of the future Lieutenants caused by the T-X.&nbsp; That certainly would have had an impact on future events, but &quot;Fate&quot; allows elements of time to be changed, such as minutiae like who ends up serving under John and Terminator model numbers.Of course it was addressed.&nbsp; Did you catch the bit about the US MILITARY creating the robots instead of Cyberdine?&nbsp; Boom you got your explanation right there.&nbsp; If your complaint is that Jonathan Mostow didn't do an outtake to the camera and bust out some pie charts and crayons and help the slow people in the audience connect the dots, well then this just wasn't your type of film.Only film geeks like myself care about such minor issues, and we can figure it out without the hand holding.&nbsp; To the casual action movie goer, the numbers on the back of a Terminator robot are beyond irrelevant, and to waste time explaining it in greater detail would have detracted from the story itself.Nope.&nbsp; That wasn't the point at ALL.&nbsp; Just the major developments, Skynet, the war, John leading mankind to victory, had to occur.&nbsp; The &quot;little details&quot; were meaningless to Fate and COMPLETELY changeable.&nbsp; Fate didn't care whether John met Kate Brewster's father when he was 10 or 20, just as long as he met him.&nbsp; Fate didn't care who died in the past, just as long as it wasn't John Connor.&nbsp; And it also didn't care who built the first robots, Cyberdine or the US Military.&nbsp; All those things were subject to change, and did get changed.There are definitely holes in the story, like the T-1000 and the T-X not being made of living tissue, as well as John's age as referenced in T3, but all in all one hell of a kick-ass story arc, from T1 to T3.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kai Lord, post: 990157, member: 3570"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussion[/b] Exactly, which makes your dispute utterly pointless and unprovable, and your claim that "its not true" total malarkey. We're talking about geeked out fan wanking to fill in the blanks of a fictional story. For time travel stories this can be kind of fun, and my way is not only possible under the "rules" of the story, but its also free of paradoxes, something that T3 makes quite clear Fate doesn't like. They didn't make the "rest of the timeline self-correcting". All the deaths and collateral damage caused by the Terminators when they went to the past didn't get undone, nor did the deaths of the future Lieutenants caused by the T-X. That certainly would have had an impact on future events, but "Fate" allows elements of time to be changed, such as minutiae like who ends up serving under John and Terminator model numbers. Of course it was addressed. Did you catch the bit about the US MILITARY creating the robots instead of Cyberdine? Boom you got your explanation right there. If your complaint is that Jonathan Mostow didn't do an outtake to the camera and bust out some pie charts and crayons and help the slow people in the audience connect the dots, well then this just wasn't your type of film. Only film geeks like myself care about such minor issues, and we can figure it out without the hand holding. To the casual action movie goer, the numbers on the back of a Terminator robot are beyond irrelevant, and to waste time explaining it in greater detail would have detracted from the story itself. Nope. That wasn't the point at ALL. Just the major developments, Skynet, the war, John leading mankind to victory, had to occur. The "little details" were meaningless to Fate and COMPLETELY changeable. Fate didn't care whether John met Kate Brewster's father when he was 10 or 20, just as long as he met him. Fate didn't care who died in the past, just as long as it wasn't John Connor. And it also didn't care who built the first robots, Cyberdine or the US Military. All those things were subject to change, and did get changed. There are definitely holes in the story, like the T-1000 and the T-X not being made of living tissue, as well as John's age as referenced in T3, but all in all one hell of a kick-ass story arc, from T1 to T3. [/QUOTE]

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