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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 990266" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussion</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong. Next time take the entire quote - not just the part that makes you look right.</p><p></p><p>It's not enough to say "nothing says X isn't allowed". Something actually has to say you're right, and nothing here does.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your system isn't free of paradoxes; it completely flies in the face of the paradox system for how John Conner was born that was set up in T1. Just because something was always a paradox does not mean, or indicate, that there was a paradox-free timeline to begin with.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because those are inconsequential. The events that were supposed to happen still happened. The people who were supposed to meet still met. The timeline self-corrected so that the averted future eventually came about anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fate <em>only</em> allows minutae to be changed. Everything else still eventually happens. That's what T3 was all about.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not "the" robots. The military made a few basic designs, but the future line, the Terminator series, was still made by Skynet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>lol, you have a real problem with not being able to separate debating from arguing. But hey, if you would have preferred pie charts to make sense of it, more power to you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No one is doing hand-holding, so stop throwing around the snide remarks. You can't figure it out, you just make up rationales that don't hold true.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, so? Why are you bothering to mention this at all? I noticed them, but they aren't at all related to the later numeric indicators of the Terminator series since Skynet alone didn't design those robots - they're irrelevant to the point at hand, so don't act like you picked up on something no one else noticed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong. That was exactly the point. It addressed the idea that fate cannot be averted. Little bits that are of no real importance can be changed, but the basics of fate can't be changed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Given how little we heard of that person in the previous movies, that can safely be said to be a little detail.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not so - Kate Brewster had to live also.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. It was a kick-ass story arc. No one is disagreeing with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 990266, member: 8461"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussion[/b] Wrong. Next time take the entire quote - not just the part that makes you look right. It's not enough to say "nothing says X isn't allowed". Something actually has to say you're right, and nothing here does. Your system isn't free of paradoxes; it completely flies in the face of the paradox system for how John Conner was born that was set up in T1. Just because something was always a paradox does not mean, or indicate, that there was a paradox-free timeline to begin with. Because those are inconsequential. The events that were supposed to happen still happened. The people who were supposed to meet still met. The timeline self-corrected so that the averted future eventually came about anyway. Fate [I]only[/I] allows minutae to be changed. Everything else still eventually happens. That's what T3 was all about. Not "the" robots. The military made a few basic designs, but the future line, the Terminator series, was still made by Skynet. lol, you have a real problem with not being able to separate debating from arguing. But hey, if you would have preferred pie charts to make sense of it, more power to you. No one is doing hand-holding, so stop throwing around the snide remarks. You can't figure it out, you just make up rationales that don't hold true. Yeah, so? Why are you bothering to mention this at all? I noticed them, but they aren't at all related to the later numeric indicators of the Terminator series since Skynet alone didn't design those robots - they're irrelevant to the point at hand, so don't act like you picked up on something no one else noticed. Wrong. That was exactly the point. It addressed the idea that fate cannot be averted. Little bits that are of no real importance can be changed, but the basics of fate can't be changed. Given how little we heard of that person in the previous movies, that can safely be said to be a little detail. Not so - Kate Brewster had to live also. Yes. It was a kick-ass story arc. No one is disagreeing with that. [/QUOTE]
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