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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 9450724" data-attributes="member: 710">Who does even care whether the planet exists or that nature goes on? it would be terrible if we destroyed it - to us. The planet, the sun, the universe, they'll move on, uncaring for anything. Whether we kill only off ourselves or all life on this planet -  the only ones currently that wax poetic about the meaning of life, what is ethical conduct or what are moral actions are humans.If you think that humans are irrelevant, than it really doesn't matter if we visit atrocities on each other, on animals, destroy nature or anything. Animals have no problems killing animals, murder babies, heck, even fungi can enslave some animals for their own purposes, and the "natural eliquibrium" Agent Smith is so fond of romanticizing is just some species taking from its environment until that environment can no longer sustain it and then it starves. The best thing evolution might do is, after million of years of mutation and selection, is for life to regulate itself a bit better to sustain for longer. With our mental capabilities, the capability of social behaviour, we have found ways to regulate ourselves in far shorter time frames.It takes time, there are setbacks, it's a never-ending struggle. But we are improving.</blockquote>