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<blockquote data-quote="heimdall" data-source="post: 1407257" data-attributes="member: 12421"><p>The first thing that came to mind was a game here recently. We were playing Shadowrun and for most of the party it's a new game system. Those of us with experience have taken things slowly, intentionally, in order to give the new players a chance to get comfortable with the rules. The GM has spent a bit more time planning on how to draw in two specific players who have had problems in previous sessions.</p><p></p><p>We get started late mainly because of the two specific players showing up late. This is right after a pretty good session where the two of them missed. So immediately the other players are noticing the difference. We get started, the GM is weaving the story, trying to pull them in. One of 'em has as her main complaint she's not involved. Disregard the fact every chance she gets, she leaves the rest of the group and finds reasons not to be with the other characters. He starts trying to involve her and her first reaction is, you guessed it, to leave the group. The GM is starting to get peeved. Everyone but the two in question see this.</p><p></p><p>So the GM switches back to the other players to get them rolling. After all, except for her, we're all together. The next thing we know, we hear snoring. From the one who feels excluded. Yes, she's asleep. But wait, there's more! Player #2 has fallen asleep, too. The GM is obviously steamed. The rest of us are, too.</p><p></p><p>It gets even better. Player #2 drops from the game. Reason? Too boring. No combat. But the player can't even tell the GM. He has the 1st player tell another player, and then depends on that second player to talk to the GM. </p><p></p><p>We play one more game session and the rigger is at it again. She at one point screams we're role-playing too much. Huh? Every time we tried to do anything during the session that resembled anything other than combat, she goes off on the player. It got so bad the GM, a relatively new one, cancels the game. I felt really, really bad for him. He tried very hard and deserved none of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="heimdall, post: 1407257, member: 12421"] The first thing that came to mind was a game here recently. We were playing Shadowrun and for most of the party it's a new game system. Those of us with experience have taken things slowly, intentionally, in order to give the new players a chance to get comfortable with the rules. The GM has spent a bit more time planning on how to draw in two specific players who have had problems in previous sessions. We get started late mainly because of the two specific players showing up late. This is right after a pretty good session where the two of them missed. So immediately the other players are noticing the difference. We get started, the GM is weaving the story, trying to pull them in. One of 'em has as her main complaint she's not involved. Disregard the fact every chance she gets, she leaves the rest of the group and finds reasons not to be with the other characters. He starts trying to involve her and her first reaction is, you guessed it, to leave the group. The GM is starting to get peeved. Everyone but the two in question see this. So the GM switches back to the other players to get them rolling. After all, except for her, we're all together. The next thing we know, we hear snoring. From the one who feels excluded. Yes, she's asleep. But wait, there's more! Player #2 has fallen asleep, too. The GM is obviously steamed. The rest of us are, too. It gets even better. Player #2 drops from the game. Reason? Too boring. No combat. But the player can't even tell the GM. He has the 1st player tell another player, and then depends on that second player to talk to the GM. We play one more game session and the rigger is at it again. She at one point screams we're role-playing too much. Huh? Every time we tried to do anything during the session that resembled anything other than combat, she goes off on the player. It got so bad the GM, a relatively new one, cancels the game. I felt really, really bad for him. He tried very hard and deserved none of it. [/QUOTE]
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