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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9239901" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah it's basically straight up an Rogue Trader-era era Warhammer 40K story, to the point where if it wasn't for the long history of the scripts for Aliens 3 and the large amount we know about them, you might think that was inspiration (40K WAS the inspiration for Event Horizon, note, as confirmed by the director a while back).</p><p></p><p>This is a strong contender. We go from a genuinely fun movie to a truly offensively stupid one which reveals the director did not, in fact, understand his material, and just got lucky.</p><p></p><p>Personally my one would be <em>The Dark Knight Rises</em>.</p><p></p><p><em>The Dark Knight</em> was a very good Batman movie, a pretty good movie period, featured great performances, a memorable script, and a plot that, for a superhero movie, was surprisingly plausible on its own merits (Joker's plan falls apart under examination, but the film is good at avoiding that - it's not blatant). It's also quite together and focused.</p><p></p><p><em>The Dark Knight Rises</em> is an risible wet fart of a movie, which looks good, and has some nice action sequences, but is absolutely brain-damagingly stupid, filled with highly politicised and very odd ideas (which lean very hard in a specific direction which isn't really congruous with even some of the movie's other ideas), blatantly makes no sense on many levels, has a largely terrible script with clunky lines (only Bane gets much to say, and he started off Nolan's godawful trend of "it's fine if the audience can't hear/understand"), is wildly overstuffed with characters and ideas - and not even in a fun way, and is overlong and self-indulgent on top of all that.</p><p></p><p>It went from like a 9/10 (grading on an curve for action-y movies) to like a 4/10.</p><p></p><p>Re: whether we're talking about "worst sequel" or "worst movie that is a sequel", I feel like the quality of the previous movie must be considered. Otherwise we just trawl around the trash for a trash sequel to a trash movie. I don't think it's interesting to ask what is the worst movie that happens to be sequel. It is interesting to ask what movie is the worst sequel to the previous movie. I don't think it's just quality either - some sequels completely betray the themes and ideas of the original - Starship Troopers 2 has been mentioned, for example. Robocop 3 is a truly terrible movie and completely betrays all the ideas of Robocop (Robocop 2 is bad but doesn't do that). Die Hard 2 is a pretty good movie, but McClaine is kind of a Big Damn Hero in it which is very distinct from the guy who was barely surviving in Die Hard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9239901, member: 18"] Yeah it's basically straight up an Rogue Trader-era era Warhammer 40K story, to the point where if it wasn't for the long history of the scripts for Aliens 3 and the large amount we know about them, you might think that was inspiration (40K WAS the inspiration for Event Horizon, note, as confirmed by the director a while back). This is a strong contender. We go from a genuinely fun movie to a truly offensively stupid one which reveals the director did not, in fact, understand his material, and just got lucky. Personally my one would be [I]The Dark Knight Rises[/I]. [I]The Dark Knight[/I] was a very good Batman movie, a pretty good movie period, featured great performances, a memorable script, and a plot that, for a superhero movie, was surprisingly plausible on its own merits (Joker's plan falls apart under examination, but the film is good at avoiding that - it's not blatant). It's also quite together and focused. [I]The Dark Knight Rises[/I] is an risible wet fart of a movie, which looks good, and has some nice action sequences, but is absolutely brain-damagingly stupid, filled with highly politicised and very odd ideas (which lean very hard in a specific direction which isn't really congruous with even some of the movie's other ideas), blatantly makes no sense on many levels, has a largely terrible script with clunky lines (only Bane gets much to say, and he started off Nolan's godawful trend of "it's fine if the audience can't hear/understand"), is wildly overstuffed with characters and ideas - and not even in a fun way, and is overlong and self-indulgent on top of all that. It went from like a 9/10 (grading on an curve for action-y movies) to like a 4/10. Re: whether we're talking about "worst sequel" or "worst movie that is a sequel", I feel like the quality of the previous movie must be considered. Otherwise we just trawl around the trash for a trash sequel to a trash movie. I don't think it's interesting to ask what is the worst movie that happens to be sequel. It is interesting to ask what movie is the worst sequel to the previous movie. I don't think it's just quality either - some sequels completely betray the themes and ideas of the original - Starship Troopers 2 has been mentioned, for example. Robocop 3 is a truly terrible movie and completely betrays all the ideas of Robocop (Robocop 2 is bad but doesn't do that). Die Hard 2 is a pretty good movie, but McClaine is kind of a Big Damn Hero in it which is very distinct from the guy who was barely surviving in Die Hard. [/QUOTE]
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