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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5979453" data-attributes="member: 9037">If you play third edition which we do skills are important. You can not claim to have a good knowledge of say history with out having ranks in it all knowledge skills are trained only.  Which means a fighter with no ranks in royalty and nobility has very little idea on the subject. They may have a vague idea of that a king is the highest but who outranks who a baron or a count. That is where a skill roll comes in. If you just handwave things like that away then you are basically saying that skills don't matter and this hurts the players who actually put ranks in them.  I like skills but I do see some of the issues involved with them. I hate playing with DMs who rarely use them specially if I am playing a character who has a lot of them. It is truly nerfing the skill monkey. I think one of the issues it get rid of cross class skills. So what if the fighter has pick lock the way to balance this is on how many skill points someone gets every level. Yes you can role play anything I can put a 3 in charisma and ignore it if my DM lets me. To me that is a form of cheating the same as if I had a 8 in strength and didn't take the minus off my attack rolls. If I have a charisma of 10 no ranks in diplomacy, nobility and royalty why am I the one talking to the kings envoy the party member who has better skills should be doing that.In the game I played in with that character we didn't really have a party face we had a paladin but he was all about killing undead he was a simple farmers son who had no clue on the ins and outs of the political intrigue that can be a big part of a Kingdoms of Kalamar game. That is where my character came in. Sure I could have made a bard or a wizard but I wanted to play a kick ass fighter who had a background as an EX Commander of a Kalamar legion.</blockquote>

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