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<blockquote data-quote="SimonMoon5" data-source="post: 654485" data-attributes="member: 5821"><p>Okay, so a bunch of people complained and now Haste is nerfed. Thanks a lot. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> </p><p></p><p>What about those of us who thought Haste was perfectly fine the way it was? How can a wizard now hope to keep up with the damage that a fighter can do?</p><p></p><p>"Quicken Spell" is the reason for the nerf? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> People won't take Quicken Spell if they can use Haste? That's odd; my wizard uses *both* Haste and Quicken Spell. Quicken Spell as written is not powerful enough to take Haste's place.</p><p></p><p>And now, Haste is a very silly spell. It's a spell that makes you faster, but you can't actually move faster. (You no longer have the option to use your partial action for movement.) And fights will be silly... A wizard casts "New Haste" and then gets an extra attack... so, what, he throws a dagger or something? And then each round he casts a spell and throws a dagger? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>However, there is one hope left for wizards, though it comes from "Magic of Rokugan". Players of wizards must beg and plead with their DMs to let them use Magic of Rokugan, I suppose, but that shouldn't be too hard, since Rokugan is kinda sorta the offical universe for Oriental Adventures, and Oriental Adventures is an official setting... So, if a wizard is allowed to use "Magic of Rokugan," he can cast "Hurried Steps," a 2nd level spell which is a personal version of Haste that gives you an extra partial action each round that can only be used to cast a spell. And "New Haste" will stack with it now. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SimonMoon5, post: 654485, member: 5821"] Okay, so a bunch of people complained and now Haste is nerfed. Thanks a lot. :mad: What about those of us who thought Haste was perfectly fine the way it was? How can a wizard now hope to keep up with the damage that a fighter can do? "Quicken Spell" is the reason for the nerf? :confused: People won't take Quicken Spell if they can use Haste? That's odd; my wizard uses *both* Haste and Quicken Spell. Quicken Spell as written is not powerful enough to take Haste's place. And now, Haste is a very silly spell. It's a spell that makes you faster, but you can't actually move faster. (You no longer have the option to use your partial action for movement.) And fights will be silly... A wizard casts "New Haste" and then gets an extra attack... so, what, he throws a dagger or something? And then each round he casts a spell and throws a dagger? :rolleyes: However, there is one hope left for wizards, though it comes from "Magic of Rokugan". Players of wizards must beg and plead with their DMs to let them use Magic of Rokugan, I suppose, but that shouldn't be too hard, since Rokugan is kinda sorta the offical universe for Oriental Adventures, and Oriental Adventures is an official setting... So, if a wizard is allowed to use "Magic of Rokugan," he can cast "Hurried Steps," a 2nd level spell which is a personal version of Haste that gives you an extra partial action each round that can only be used to cast a spell. And "New Haste" will stack with it now. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]
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