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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenes 2" data-source="post: 655699" data-attributes="member: 6166">Ok, lets take this for example (just fooling arund with gear):Level 8 Fighter / Level 6 Weapon Master*Str. 26 2 Handed Sword, Keen, +5, Icy BurstImproved CriticalPower Attack 5 (optimized)Weapon FocusWeapon SpecialisationSuperiour Weapon FocusSuperiour Weapon Spec. (additional +2 dmg)**Home Brew or slightly altereddmg per hit: 3d6+26, 36,5 on averagedmg per critical: 4d6+1d6+1d10+52, 75 on averageAccording to my damage calculator, against AC 20 he will do 114.92 dmg on average per round. Add in the ki-strike damage and he will do 15 dmg more per round until he has hit 6 times.So, this fighter does 115 to 130 dmg on average in a round. Now, I may be mistaken, but I don't think such a fighter is typical for a level 14 PC, so I kinda doubt that level 11/12 fighters regularly do 35 dmg per hit...In contrast, a level 14 sorcerer can do 14d6*1.5 with an empowered cone of fire, or 73,5 dmg with a failed save. The DC for the save would be 10+5+8(Charisma 26)+1(Spellcasting Prodigy)+4(Greater Spell Focus)+2(Bloodline of Fire)=30. Just need 2 targets fail their save and you top the fighter handily.I know I am no smackdowner, but this is not too bad.IMHO, if there is not a too big unbalance in the amount of minmaxing the PCs undergo, then things should be fine without haste speeding up spellcasting.</blockquote>