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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 662106" data-attributes="member: 1134">And then there are I think at least the majority of us in thse threads who are more conearned with how this will likely narrow that tactics of the party.&nbsp; If damaging spells become less useful people will use more save or dies(no diversity, and boring), if the DR changes go in, people will either carry a golf bag of weaponry and or switch to two handed weapon style(again no diversity and boring).Add in that for haste some of us think the new spell is just a really sucky 3d level spell so it isn't a fix, and that their reason is lame because well quicken didn't get used much because quicken sucks.Add in that for DR people are starting to wonder about compatability issues and the ease to house rule the new DR, and you have tons of legitimite complaints.&nbsp; So it can't jsut be handwaved off with hey there both geting shafted, &quot;balance&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 662106, member: 1134"] And then there are I think at least the majority of us in thse threads who are more conearned with how this will likely narrow that tactics of the party. If damaging spells become less useful people will use more save or dies(no diversity, and boring), if the DR changes go in, people will either carry a golf bag of weaponry and or switch to two handed weapon style(again no diversity and boring). Add in that for haste some of us think the new spell is just a really sucky 3d level spell so it isn't a fix, and that their reason is lame because well quicken didn't get used much because quicken sucks. Add in that for DR people are starting to wonder about compatability issues and the ease to house rule the new DR, and you have tons of legitimite complaints. So it can't jsut be handwaved off with hey there both geting shafted, "balance" [/QUOTE]

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