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<blockquote data-quote="Petrosian" data-source="post: 662750" data-attributes="member: 1149">FWIW my opinion on the haste change...I think it is an inequitable reduction and one which makes for some stupid results...Inequitable... i would have preferred it give a MEA, not an attack. A MEA could be used by a fighter to gain a full attack when otherwise he is looking at a charge or move-swing-once. It could be used by a sorcerer to cast a metamagiced spell and move or to draw an item and so on. The extra attack only benefits those who use &quot;attacks&quot; and not any other potential action.Stupid results... so now since the only action gain we see is an attack, we will see sorcerers with quickdraw who routniely cast a spell and then throw a dagger or who cast a spell and then fire an arrow shot, and so on. More likely, you will see &quot;i cast my spell then throw a flask of holy water/alchemists fire.&quot; type deals.&nbsp; That doesn't seem very mage-like to me, but that is what it encourages. Indeed... who benefits the most from the new haste? Well, they would need to have both credible spellcasting and attscks... could they perhaps be CLERICS!!!yeah, that seems like a goodm well thought out, controlled change to me.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Petrosian, post: 662750, member: 1149"] FWIW my opinion on the haste change... I think it is an inequitable reduction and one which makes for some stupid results... Inequitable... i would have preferred it give a MEA, not an attack. A MEA could be used by a fighter to gain a full attack when otherwise he is looking at a charge or move-swing-once. It could be used by a sorcerer to cast a metamagiced spell and move or to draw an item and so on. The extra attack only benefits those who use "attacks" and not any other potential action. Stupid results... so now since the only action gain we see is an attack, we will see sorcerers with quickdraw who routniely cast a spell and then throw a dagger or who cast a spell and then fire an arrow shot, and so on. More likely, you will see "i cast my spell then throw a flask of holy water/alchemists fire." type deals. That doesn't seem very mage-like to me, but that is what it encourages. Indeed... who benefits the most from the new haste? Well, they would need to have both credible spellcasting and attscks... could they perhaps be CLERICS!!! yeah, that seems like a goodm well thought out, controlled change to me. :-) [/QUOTE]

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