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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 6180887" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>In the sloppy form of freedom of speech, I can say what I want, and you can say what you want.</p><p></p><p>The conflict is when I say something, and you not only don't like it and say something in response, but then use your speech to try to squelch, intimidate, or silence mine.</p><p></p><p>Let's say my blog/comic strip says "I hate watermelon"</p><p></p><p>You disagree with that, so you start an "I love Watermelon" website.</p><p></p><p>Seems fine to me, and probably most people in the sloppy freedom of speech world.</p><p></p><p>Now let's say you really object to my hating of watermelon.</p><p></p><p>So now you start telling people to avoid my site, because I am a watermelon hater.</p><p></p><p>That's kind of negative, and ratcheting things up a notch from just trying to extol the virtues of watermelon and thus shape the malleable minds of America.</p><p></p><p>Now let's say you crank up the rhetoric that me and other people who hate watermelon are evil and are a detriment to society.</p><p></p><p>That's really negative.</p><p></p><p>I can't say if that's right or wrong in the moral sense. It's probably legal in the legal sense.</p><p></p><p>But it's crossing a line from presenting facts and opinion to trying to silence my speech.</p><p></p><p>I think part of the reason I object to this (and maybe Alzrius, but it's been a long thread to be sure), is that it goes from you and me presenting basic info and letting the market decide (do I get more followers on my site or do you?), and instead attempts to manipulate people into choosing your side over mine.</p><p></p><p>In my view, if watermelon is so awesome, that truth should be self evident and I should have few people agreeing with my site. Thus, sales of my anti-watermelon stickers will be very low, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 6180887, member: 8835"] In the sloppy form of freedom of speech, I can say what I want, and you can say what you want. The conflict is when I say something, and you not only don't like it and say something in response, but then use your speech to try to squelch, intimidate, or silence mine. Let's say my blog/comic strip says "I hate watermelon" You disagree with that, so you start an "I love Watermelon" website. Seems fine to me, and probably most people in the sloppy freedom of speech world. Now let's say you really object to my hating of watermelon. So now you start telling people to avoid my site, because I am a watermelon hater. That's kind of negative, and ratcheting things up a notch from just trying to extol the virtues of watermelon and thus shape the malleable minds of America. Now let's say you crank up the rhetoric that me and other people who hate watermelon are evil and are a detriment to society. That's really negative. I can't say if that's right or wrong in the moral sense. It's probably legal in the legal sense. But it's crossing a line from presenting facts and opinion to trying to silence my speech. I think part of the reason I object to this (and maybe Alzrius, but it's been a long thread to be sure), is that it goes from you and me presenting basic info and letting the market decide (do I get more followers on my site or do you?), and instead attempts to manipulate people into choosing your side over mine. In my view, if watermelon is so awesome, that truth should be self evident and I should have few people agreeing with my site. Thus, sales of my anti-watermelon stickers will be very low, etc. [/QUOTE]
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