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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 6181730" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>It'll start when the new computer I ordered arrives. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For what it's worth, that's sort of the point of all this. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong (notwithstanding the insane individuals who do not), but comparatively few people seem to think through <em>why</em> certain things are right or wrong, and <em>how</em> they reach those determinations. I'm saying that in order to have a debate, it becomes necessary to examine those processes so as to better explain our thinking on the matter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bear in mind that if one were to have a negative duty regarding not suppressing another's creative expression, then the above could be in conflict with it. Since the point of a tiered structure is to have the higher duty win out in the event of a conflict, that would likely mean that even with the above caveat, one could still come to the conclusion that they should carry products they don't personally approve of.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As a note, this would seem to run afoul of the general guideline I mentioned in regards to specificity of action (since actions are what we're judging the morality of). Citing "something you think is immoral" in a framework set up to make the state of morality be the <em>determination</em>, rather than part of the qualifiers being judged, is somewhat counterproductive.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I personally disagree with the requirement that something only be considered suppression if performed by a singular monopoly-holder, since that means that such actions, when performed in groups, are never considered to be suppressive (e.g. the case with Manhunt 2).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can intuit the question you're thinking of (at least I think I can), and the answer I can come to is that I wouldn't consider that to be an act of suppression because your personal space doesn't really constitute a venue for distribution in the first place. If your neighbor from across the street wants to paint your car with commercial logos for his new business start-up, you saying no isn't an act of suppression because he's not looking to use any sort of public medium to do so; he's looking to use an extension of yourself - saying that you don't want to be used in that manner is not suppressing someone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 6181730, member: 8461"] It'll start when the new computer I ordered arrives. ;) For what it's worth, that's sort of the point of all this. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong (notwithstanding the insane individuals who do not), but comparatively few people seem to think through [i]why[/i] certain things are right or wrong, and [i]how[/i] they reach those determinations. I'm saying that in order to have a debate, it becomes necessary to examine those processes so as to better explain our thinking on the matter. Bear in mind that if one were to have a negative duty regarding not suppressing another's creative expression, then the above could be in conflict with it. Since the point of a tiered structure is to have the higher duty win out in the event of a conflict, that would likely mean that even with the above caveat, one could still come to the conclusion that they should carry products they don't personally approve of. As a note, this would seem to run afoul of the general guideline I mentioned in regards to specificity of action (since actions are what we're judging the morality of). Citing "something you think is immoral" in a framework set up to make the state of morality be the [i]determination[/i], rather than part of the qualifiers being judged, is somewhat counterproductive. I personally disagree with the requirement that something only be considered suppression if performed by a singular monopoly-holder, since that means that such actions, when performed in groups, are never considered to be suppressive (e.g. the case with Manhunt 2). I can intuit the question you're thinking of (at least I think I can), and the answer I can come to is that I wouldn't consider that to be an act of suppression because your personal space doesn't really constitute a venue for distribution in the first place. If your neighbor from across the street wants to paint your car with commercial logos for his new business start-up, you saying no isn't an act of suppression because he's not looking to use any sort of public medium to do so; he's looking to use an extension of yourself - saying that you don't want to be used in that manner is not suppressing someone else. [/QUOTE]
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