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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6183057" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>That comic says to me: "All those people who feel that there is some link between our comic and encouraging rape are idiots. But in order to make you feel better, we'll point out that we don't like rape and if you feel we somehow have the power to make people rape or not rape someone else, we'll tell them not to. That should make everything better."</p><p></p><p>Here's where I feel there is a major issue. I've read enough of the blog entries to know that the argument goes something like this:</p><p></p><p>-Any mention of rape helps legitimize it, especially mentions of it in a casual context like a comic, ESPECIALLY if it is mentioned lightheartedly</p><p>-The more rape is legitimized, the more people will commit it</p><p></p><p>When people, quite legitimately respond with "Wait, that implies that I'm somehow encouraging or causing people to rape other people. That wasn't my intention and I REALLY don't think ANYONE raped someone else because they read my comic" the response is almost always "We never said your comic caused anyone to go out and commit rape, that would be silly. Of course your comic didn't make anyone rape anyone else. However, it encourages Rape Culture, which means more rapes occur." To which the only sane reply is "So if, by encouraging Rape Culture, I have caused more rapes you occur...then you ARE saying my comic caused rapes."</p><p></p><p>The argument tends to go around like that, in circles.</p><p></p><p>I haven't studied the phenomenon of Rape Culture. I'm guessing there's no hard evidence on whether or not the idea of a Rape Culture encouraging rape is a real thing or not. I suspect that those affected by rape believe it is, however. The problem with this as a concept is that it can be applied to nearly every concept in existence. It becomes a slippery slope because every mention of murder encourages a Murder Culture. Every mention of shoplifting creates a Shoplifting Culture.</p><p></p><p>I think it's a mistake to trivialize bad things. However, I think our entire culture is becoming hyper sensitive. Racial, Gender, Cultural, Religious and all sorts of issues are being actively watched for by people who believe that their particular issue is the greatest threat to humanity. Although these are all issue, we need to be careful as a society that while attempting to punish real incidents of discrimination and hate that we don't also aim our sights at simple misunderstandings and extremely minor incidents. Being hyper sensitive will only hurt us in the long run in creating an "Us vs Them Culture".</p><p></p><p></p><p>Just keep in mind that this particular timeline is extremely biased and created by someone who is an opponent of PA despite claims to the contrary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 6183057, member: 5143"] That comic says to me: "All those people who feel that there is some link between our comic and encouraging rape are idiots. But in order to make you feel better, we'll point out that we don't like rape and if you feel we somehow have the power to make people rape or not rape someone else, we'll tell them not to. That should make everything better." Here's where I feel there is a major issue. I've read enough of the blog entries to know that the argument goes something like this: -Any mention of rape helps legitimize it, especially mentions of it in a casual context like a comic, ESPECIALLY if it is mentioned lightheartedly -The more rape is legitimized, the more people will commit it When people, quite legitimately respond with "Wait, that implies that I'm somehow encouraging or causing people to rape other people. That wasn't my intention and I REALLY don't think ANYONE raped someone else because they read my comic" the response is almost always "We never said your comic caused anyone to go out and commit rape, that would be silly. Of course your comic didn't make anyone rape anyone else. However, it encourages Rape Culture, which means more rapes occur." To which the only sane reply is "So if, by encouraging Rape Culture, I have caused more rapes you occur...then you ARE saying my comic caused rapes." The argument tends to go around like that, in circles. I haven't studied the phenomenon of Rape Culture. I'm guessing there's no hard evidence on whether or not the idea of a Rape Culture encouraging rape is a real thing or not. I suspect that those affected by rape believe it is, however. The problem with this as a concept is that it can be applied to nearly every concept in existence. It becomes a slippery slope because every mention of murder encourages a Murder Culture. Every mention of shoplifting creates a Shoplifting Culture. I think it's a mistake to trivialize bad things. However, I think our entire culture is becoming hyper sensitive. Racial, Gender, Cultural, Religious and all sorts of issues are being actively watched for by people who believe that their particular issue is the greatest threat to humanity. Although these are all issue, we need to be careful as a society that while attempting to punish real incidents of discrimination and hate that we don't also aim our sights at simple misunderstandings and extremely minor incidents. Being hyper sensitive will only hurt us in the long run in creating an "Us vs Them Culture". Just keep in mind that this particular timeline is extremely biased and created by someone who is an opponent of PA despite claims to the contrary. [/QUOTE]
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