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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 6861285" data-attributes="member: 17607">OK, let's play this game. I'll go in order of posting rather than in order of egregiousness:Telling another player that he's playing his character wrong.Have monsters go out of their way to target the character, despite the character not being a threat to them, so that the player gets the message.'Force' the character to participate, and threaten the player with ostracism if he refuses. Suggest the player is valueless for not participating.Actually have the other players tell the offending player that &quot;he's really not welcome&quot;. Not that &quot;your character's actions are frustrating and limiting our enjoyment of the game,&quot; but &quot;go away.&quot;Again, have monsters harass the character despite the character not being a threat. If that doesn't work, kidnap the character and abandon him, helpless, in a dangerous area. (Maybe you don't need to hogtie him if there's a convenient set of coat-hooks that you can just suspend him by his belt-loops from?)This is one that really threw me for a loop -- in the midst of an otherwise sensible discussion of the issue, there's this recommendation that the DM murder the PC and suggest that the other PCs hide the body so it can't be recovered. Hey, if it works, how about we do the same to that effeminate guy in gym class's pet cat so that he'll 'get the message' to act more manly when in the shower?The OP just seems to be asking for the best advice on how to deal with the situation. I hope to heaven he doesn't recommend any of the advice quoted above.--Pauper</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 6861285, member: 17607"] OK, let's play this game. I'll go in order of posting rather than in order of egregiousness: Telling another player that he's playing his character wrong. Have monsters go out of their way to target the character, despite the character not being a threat to them, so that the player gets the message. 'Force' the character to participate, and threaten the player with ostracism if he refuses. Suggest the player is valueless for not participating. Actually have the other players tell the offending player that "he's really not welcome". Not that "your character's actions are frustrating and limiting our enjoyment of the game," but "go away." Again, have monsters harass the character despite the character not being a threat. If that doesn't work, [i]kidnap the character and abandon him, helpless, in a dangerous area[/i]. (Maybe you don't need to hogtie him if there's a convenient set of coat-hooks that you can just suspend him by his belt-loops from?) This is one that really threw me for a loop -- in the midst of an otherwise sensible discussion of the issue, there's this recommendation that the DM [i]murder the PC and suggest that the other PCs hide the body so it can't be recovered[/i]. Hey, if it works, how about we do the same to that effeminate guy in gym class's pet cat so that he'll 'get the message' to act more manly when in the shower? The OP just seems to be asking for the best advice on how to deal with the situation. I hope to heaven he doesn't recommend any of the advice quoted above. -- Pauper [/QUOTE]

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