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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 8005996" data-attributes="member: 7015558">Ok, actually read the full post! Full disclosure, I'm ignoring Disclaimer 2. I know you're not trying to convert anyone, but after reading what you think about "seeing what they might mean," I kind of disagree with your leaps so I'm going to point them out. I'm not going to say what is better or not, but I do disagree with what you seem to think the design changes actually mean.Firstly, I don't know how the Manual of the Planes stops players from traveling from world to world. It's clearly not true, as you have a bunch of characters cross-pollinating within both Spelljammer and Ravenloft from various settings.Is there an actual source for these assumptions? I haven't seen anything that states "D&D are fantasy only, you can't sci-fi!" If not this is a big assumption.To be clear, the whole premise of Dark Sun (that it is a post-apocalyptic wasteland) kind of breaks down if people can just up-and-leave. It's also not even true; there are actual Dark Sun modules where the Githyanki invade Athas, showing that Dark Sun isn't as cut-off as people first assume.I'll be honest here, I am so very very confused by this whole series of posts. The changes you're saying happened did indeed happen, but they haven't invalidated any aspect of Gygaxian portals and multiversal concepts. It just adds some structure to explain how those concepts are possible.5E goes out of its way to embrace several of the Gygaxian elements you love. Dungeon of the Made Mage pulls elements from other settings into its nutty expanse of material, including Spelljammer. Characters like Acererak from Greyhawk and even Critical Role characters have appeared in Forgotten Realms content. They even released the Lost Laboratory of Kwalish which is a direct call-out to Expedition of the Barrier Peaks.I love the amount of research you're doing and also love the nostalgia of TSR (which I share), but I do disagree that the material of today somehow invalidates it... it's all still very possible, and still being sprinkled throughout new material.</blockquote>

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