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<blockquote data-quote="n00bdragon" data-source="post: 6064684" data-attributes="member: 6689371">I'm definitely in the hardcore crowd, and while my primary group is happy playing 4e and have been happy with it since launch we unfortunately have to replace a player every 6 months to a year due to schedules and the like and each time it's gotten harder and harder as the &quot;anti-4e meme&quot; gets more and more entrenched. Any time I even mention the game I instantly come under assault and am asked to defend my choice of system, nevermind asking people to join. It's ridiculous. As a result I've started running other systems on the side. Mutants and Masterminds 3e borrows a lot of theory from 4e and puts it to good use. I've really enjoyed running that system and will probably keep doing so. I might even consider making it my primary game since &quot;super heroes&quot; makes people curious and not instantly spit venom at my face.So what will happen to the 4e crowd? They'll keep playing 4e until their groups break up and then they'll just play other things. The most worrisome thing to me is that new games will look at what happened and shy away from using the good ideas 4e had.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="n00bdragon, post: 6064684, member: 6689371"] I'm definitely in the hardcore crowd, and while my primary group is happy playing 4e and have been happy with it since launch we unfortunately have to replace a player every 6 months to a year due to schedules and the like and each time it's gotten harder and harder as the "anti-4e meme" gets more and more entrenched. Any time I even mention the game I instantly come under assault and am asked to defend my choice of system, nevermind asking people to join. It's ridiculous. As a result I've started running other systems on the side. Mutants and Masterminds 3e borrows a lot of theory from 4e and puts it to good use. I've really enjoyed running that system and will probably keep doing so. I might even consider making it my primary game since "super heroes" makes people curious and not instantly spit venom at my face. So what will happen to the 4e crowd? They'll keep playing 4e until their groups break up and then they'll just play other things. The most worrisome thing to me is that new games will look at what happened and shy away from using the good ideas 4e had. [/QUOTE]

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