Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
The 4e Distribution Model has Failed...
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Dungeoneer" data-source="post: 5434725" data-attributes="member: 91777"><p>When I originally heard about the 'yearly core sequels' model, my initial thought was "Yeah right, we'll see how long that lasts." Actually I'm impressed that they made it work for (nearly) three years. The fact that they came up with a PHB3 that wasn't complete nonsense and had some interesting, original stuff was pretty incredible.</p><p></p><p>But I think they had to know from the get-go that this model wouldn't work forever. Did anyone ever really think that a ton of people were going to sign up for a <em>Player's Handbook 5</em>? Or <em>Martial Power 3? </em>So I think that reality has kind of caught up with them at this point. </p><p></p><p>Then you factor in the rise of DDI. So not only are people burned out on buying books with a number after their name, but they don't <em>need</em> to because they can get all the crunchy bits for just ten bucks a month. And at this point in the lifecycle of Fourth Edition, most customers are catching onto that fact.</p><p></p><p>I think that there was <em>always </em>going to have to be a shakeup in the 4e distribution module. But I think that that shakeup has come at a particularly bad time.</p><p></p><p>New editions of the game have diminishing returns. After the newness and shininess wears off and everybody has bought the core books, sales tend to level off. Under ordinary circumstances the bean counters accept this. But here we are in a recession, and sales are down, and somebody hit the panic button.</p><p></p><p>Thus, the random flailing about that they're trying to pass off as a business strategy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeoneer, post: 5434725, member: 91777"] When I originally heard about the 'yearly core sequels' model, my initial thought was "Yeah right, we'll see how long that lasts." Actually I'm impressed that they made it work for (nearly) three years. The fact that they came up with a PHB3 that wasn't complete nonsense and had some interesting, original stuff was pretty incredible. But I think they had to know from the get-go that this model wouldn't work forever. Did anyone ever really think that a ton of people were going to sign up for a [I]Player's Handbook 5[/I]? Or [I]Martial Power 3? [/I]So I think that reality has kind of caught up with them at this point. Then you factor in the rise of DDI. So not only are people burned out on buying books with a number after their name, but they don't [I]need[/I] to because they can get all the crunchy bits for just ten bucks a month. And at this point in the lifecycle of Fourth Edition, most customers are catching onto that fact. I think that there was [I]always [/I]going to have to be a shakeup in the 4e distribution module. But I think that that shakeup has come at a particularly bad time. New editions of the game have diminishing returns. After the newness and shininess wears off and everybody has bought the core books, sales tend to level off. Under ordinary circumstances the bean counters accept this. But here we are in a recession, and sales are down, and somebody hit the panic button. Thus, the random flailing about that they're trying to pass off as a business strategy. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
The 4e Distribution Model has Failed...
Top