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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5434938" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>I'd like to point out a few things you had in your post shadzar, if I may...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually... they weren't putting out a new game each year. They were putting out new <em>expansions</em> each year. At no time did anything in Player's Handbook 2 indicate you didn't need Player's Handbook 1 to play. Sure, you might have clueless people who see books 1 & 2 on the shelves and think to themselves "well, I don't need Call of Duty 1 to play Call of Duty 2... so I can just buy Player's Handbook 2 and everything will be fine!"... but I for one would never want WotC to dumb things down so much as to placate that kind of idiot who can't be bothered to look at the book he's buying first.</p><p></p><p>And as far as your comments on errata... your complaint is that some errata appears in PH2 for PH1 so you have to buy the second book. But since it also appears in the online tools, you have to buy the tools to get it. But since it also appears as a free download... you have to search the website for it, download it, then remember to use it. And somehow, this is WotC's <em>fault</em>? Just what exactly is WotC supposed to do in this situation, short of reprinting the complete PH after each errata cycle and giving it away for free to each person who owns one, or just not bothering to come up with errata at all? Errata exists because it is useful. The fact that you then actually have to <em>use</em> it does not ipso facto mean WotC 'failed'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is why we have things like Amazon. Where you <em>can</em> find setting books from one, two, five, ten years ago. And considering WotC printed dozens upon dozens of setting-specific supplement books for Third Edition... is your complaint that they didn't reprint all of these things over again for Fourth Edition? Considering 95% of each of those Forgotten Realms and Eberron books are complete fluff and edition neutral... just how many copies of those things do you think we needed or would have sold had they been produced?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you even know what is <em>in</em> DDI? Because everything you write is patently untrue. You don't need a computer to play D&D. Not in the slightest bit. And anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.</p><p></p><p>Now you can certainly use a computer to make setting up <em>parts</em> of the game <em>easier</em>. But they are not <strong>required</strong>. And in fact, there are plenty of people here on ENWorld who do just fine without DDI.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So now you're mad that WotC is producing board games that use the mechanics of the roleplaying game. Okay. And I suppose you were mad when video game companies like Bioware used D&D mechanics to produce video games too? Considering that the Ravenloft game doesn't <em>replace</em> the roleplaying game and is merely another game who branding and rules structure is very similar to the roleplaying game... looks to me like you just want to get mad at WotC for no discernable reason.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dragons-Roleplaying-Starter-Introductory/dp/0786948205" target="_blank">D&D 4E Starter Set released October 21, 2008</a></p><p></p><p>Case closed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 5434938, member: 7006"] I'd like to point out a few things you had in your post shadzar, if I may... Actually... they weren't putting out a new game each year. They were putting out new [I]expansions[/I] each year. At no time did anything in Player's Handbook 2 indicate you didn't need Player's Handbook 1 to play. Sure, you might have clueless people who see books 1 & 2 on the shelves and think to themselves "well, I don't need Call of Duty 1 to play Call of Duty 2... so I can just buy Player's Handbook 2 and everything will be fine!"... but I for one would never want WotC to dumb things down so much as to placate that kind of idiot who can't be bothered to look at the book he's buying first. And as far as your comments on errata... your complaint is that some errata appears in PH2 for PH1 so you have to buy the second book. But since it also appears in the online tools, you have to buy the tools to get it. But since it also appears as a free download... you have to search the website for it, download it, then remember to use it. And somehow, this is WotC's [I]fault[/I]? Just what exactly is WotC supposed to do in this situation, short of reprinting the complete PH after each errata cycle and giving it away for free to each person who owns one, or just not bothering to come up with errata at all? Errata exists because it is useful. The fact that you then actually have to [I]use[/I] it does not ipso facto mean WotC 'failed'. This is why we have things like Amazon. Where you [I]can[/I] find setting books from one, two, five, ten years ago. And considering WotC printed dozens upon dozens of setting-specific supplement books for Third Edition... is your complaint that they didn't reprint all of these things over again for Fourth Edition? Considering 95% of each of those Forgotten Realms and Eberron books are complete fluff and edition neutral... just how many copies of those things do you think we needed or would have sold had they been produced? Do you even know what is [I]in[/I] DDI? Because everything you write is patently untrue. You don't need a computer to play D&D. Not in the slightest bit. And anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. Now you can certainly use a computer to make setting up [I]parts[/I] of the game [I]easier[/I]. But they are not [B]required[/B]. And in fact, there are plenty of people here on ENWorld who do just fine without DDI. So now you're mad that WotC is producing board games that use the mechanics of the roleplaying game. Okay. And I suppose you were mad when video game companies like Bioware used D&D mechanics to produce video games too? Considering that the Ravenloft game doesn't [I]replace[/I] the roleplaying game and is merely another game who branding and rules structure is very similar to the roleplaying game... looks to me like you just want to get mad at WotC for no discernable reason. [url="http://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dragons-Roleplaying-Starter-Introductory/dp/0786948205"]D&D 4E Starter Set released October 21, 2008[/url] Case closed. [/QUOTE]
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