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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadzar" data-source="post: 5435096" data-attributes="member: 6667746">No, I didn't say you have to buy them all, I said where you could get them in all the places they came, none of which worked if you weren't interested in buying DDi, or wanting to buy PHB2, or wanting to flip through printouts to find them. Did they ever make the errata you could print out and glue in PHB1 so it is always there in the same place you go to look for it?You don't rely on eBay for to keep your busines running unless you make sales on eBay. All those secondary markets are not osmething you want to think will be able to support you in your business model.Hey look I can be smug also...Did you know it is possible to play D&D without buying any books with DDi, or if they never did add those missing rules elements, just having the PHB. So everything I said is true for the player(s) that own nothing or just the PHB and rely on DDi for everything else. Have you not see where people have said that without CB they wouldn't play 4th because it is a mes to handle characters. If you want any new material in CB you have to hack a copy of the downloadable version that used to exist to add the material, or subscribe to DDi. Those people who would only play with CB, are ones that need the constant internet connection going and would be renting the game. Heck I have even seen on here, I think, people mentioned that you rent your characters with the new online CB because you lose them when your subscription runs out, and still you cannot acces them without a connection to the internet to run the DDi silverlight ONLINE application.Where in the world do you come up with this stuff? Can I have some of what you are drinking? I didn't say I was mad they are making board games, but the 4th edition distribution model had nothing about board games to begin with. So they changed the model because it had failed, and I am saying this change will not make a new model better. I am not mad at WotC, but getting mad at people who do not take the time to read what I write, and them twist my words around. Well not mad, but totaly ****** off.You think Ravenloft doesn't replace the RPG, well you are wrong. Start a new thread as to not derail this one, and I will explain it to you.Again....people don't read? October 2008 is NOT, I repeat NOT June 2008.What we see here is the afterthought. Idea is people will jsut buy the books normally and get new people playing. Then someone says "Oops what about those people that never played a TTRPG before?" So from the time they realized they had no introductory product until it hit the shelves is where they failed. Introductory product either comes out BEFORE or AT THE SAME TIME as the regular product.They still give out free samples of some things, if you know where to get them in this world. Those samples are sent out for new products before it hits the market to let people try it to be ready to buy it upon its street date.DDi is in no way shape or form an introductory product as it didnt show much of anything and you couldn't try 4th edition out until much later when part/all of the KotS was put on the site for download.They had NOTHING for entry level into RPGs for 4th edition at the time of its release.Or if we want to laugh about it and at them. They released the game during summer break where many "younger" people aren't in school and have free time, but they wait until people are back in school and busy to bring out something to get new people interested. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />They and their model FAILED to have the proper products in place at the proper time. Accept it.</blockquote>

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