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<blockquote data-quote="Kintara" data-source="post: 3878501" data-attributes="member: 33654"><p>I think minotaur is out because it's too close to the Tauren in WoW. They'll probably already get crap for adding in the Warlock, and having two elven races (one nature-like and one more magical). To be clear, I think this is an argument that relies on a lame (ultimately circular) analogy, but I can see them being self-conscious about it.</p><p></p><p>Hobgoblins don't suffer from this problem, and they seem to be an It race at the moment at Wizards and in general. People love their militant hobgoblins. And they don't step on the shoes of any of the confirmed races as much as goblins might (with halflings). Also, I think hobgoblins as fully formed PC characters works really well in Eberron (I don't know about FR).</p><p></p><p>I'd love to see Changelings in the core book, but they'll probably save that for Eberron.</p><p></p><p>I could totally play a Gnoll, but that seems like an outside shot, especially since I remember the designers talking about them as very much monsters (that fight like hyenas).</p><p></p><p>Someone mentioned Kenku at one point in another thread. I've actually played one, and, again, would love to see them in the core book, but that's NOT going to happen.</p><p></p><p>I'd laugh if the mystery race was the Gnome. Laugh my ass off.</p><p></p><p>A Shadowfell associated undead race (necropolitan?) would probably suffer the same problem as the minotaur, which is that WoW already has an Undead race. A living race from the Shadowfell might work, but nothing is jumping out to me as archetypal enough. Maybe they're making something totally new.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Catfolk would make some people giddy with happiness, and it would make others giddy, too...in a different way. Personally, I love (...but not looove <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) cats so I'd be down.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kintara, post: 3878501, member: 33654"] I think minotaur is out because it's too close to the Tauren in WoW. They'll probably already get crap for adding in the Warlock, and having two elven races (one nature-like and one more magical). To be clear, I think this is an argument that relies on a lame (ultimately circular) analogy, but I can see them being self-conscious about it. Hobgoblins don't suffer from this problem, and they seem to be an It race at the moment at Wizards and in general. People love their militant hobgoblins. And they don't step on the shoes of any of the confirmed races as much as goblins might (with halflings). Also, I think hobgoblins as fully formed PC characters works really well in Eberron (I don't know about FR). I'd love to see Changelings in the core book, but they'll probably save that for Eberron. I could totally play a Gnoll, but that seems like an outside shot, especially since I remember the designers talking about them as very much monsters (that fight like hyenas). Someone mentioned Kenku at one point in another thread. I've actually played one, and, again, would love to see them in the core book, but that's NOT going to happen. I'd laugh if the mystery race was the Gnome. Laugh my ass off. A Shadowfell associated undead race (necropolitan?) would probably suffer the same problem as the minotaur, which is that WoW already has an Undead race. A living race from the Shadowfell might work, but nothing is jumping out to me as archetypal enough. Maybe they're making something totally new. Edit: Catfolk would make some people giddy with happiness, and it would make others giddy, too...in a different way. Personally, I love (...but not looove ;)) cats so I'd be down. [/QUOTE]
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