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<blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3828241" data-attributes="member: 18363">So, this 'send foe to hell for a round' curse is basically a 'summon monster' spell in reverse? Yeah, I guess that sounds about right. So the curse tags a foe to be summoned by the warlock's patron, where upon the foe is tortured / slain, but due to the fact it was a summoning it doesn't actually kill the foe - just thoroughly shock / horrify him, causing some pychosomatic damage (to hp) in the process? Eh, put me down as being disappointed in this. I never really liked the summon magic in the first place, as it seems to only summon an shadow-like illusion of a being on another plane, albeit forcing their awareness into the illusion for the duration of the spell or until the destruction of said shadowy illusion. As for the three patron types, I'm also guessing devils, fey, and something from the shadowfell plane (spirits? phantoms? ghosts? wraiths? incorporeal undead in general? or can a powerful vampire or lich also invest power into a warlock?). If the 4e warlock actually has different mechanical traits due to differing patron type then I might enjoy it a bit more. I never really understood how a 3.5e warlock - who flavor text suggested could potentially have gotten his powers from a fey - would have DR vs silver instead of cold iron, as an example.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nyeshet, post: 3828241, member: 18363"] So, this 'send foe to hell for a round' curse is basically a 'summon monster' spell in reverse? Yeah, I guess that sounds about right. So the curse tags a foe to be summoned by the warlock's patron, where upon the foe is tortured / slain, but due to the fact it was a summoning it doesn't actually kill the foe - just thoroughly shock / horrify him, causing some pychosomatic damage (to hp) in the process? Eh, put me down as being disappointed in this. I never really liked the summon magic in the first place, as it seems to only summon an shadow-like illusion of a being on another plane, albeit forcing their awareness into the illusion for the duration of the spell or until the destruction of said shadowy illusion. As for the three patron types, I'm also guessing devils, fey, and something from the shadowfell plane (spirits? phantoms? ghosts? wraiths? incorporeal undead in general? or can a powerful vampire or lich also invest power into a warlock?). If the 4e warlock actually has different mechanical traits due to differing patron type then I might enjoy it a bit more. I never really understood how a 3.5e warlock - who flavor text suggested could potentially have gotten his powers from a fey - would have DR vs silver instead of cold iron, as an example. [/QUOTE]

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