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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scholar &amp; Brutalman" data-source="post: 3803535" data-attributes="member: 33642">Yeah, and that makes me wonder why they're doing it. It's possible they really don't care about previous campaigns: they want new players and markets. Well, FR fans would probably say they've got evidence of that. Wizards did start off by telling everyone they should start a new campaign, and they clearly aren't afraid of changing things that have been part of the game for a long time. If this is the case Wizards may think that the "core four" classes and races are enough that most grognards will accept it as D&D and come along, grudgingly or not. It's also possible that they may not have enough space in the 4e PHB to add the rest of the classes. They have only 8 classes, compared with the 11 in 3.5, but each of the classes now needs 30 levels of both talents and feats to select from. If Wizards don't want to repeat the problem of the 3rd ed fighter, they'll be making sure every class has real high level options available. I think each of the classes may have at least two alternate builds through whatever talents/paths are, and maybe two at each of heroic, paragon and epic levels. Every class has to have lists of per encounter and per day powers to choose from, essentially taking up the space that the spells did in 3e. Mechanics and fluff to support the three power sources are needed - if Wizards added the classes from 3e, they might need at least one more power source. I think whatever the prestige classes have morphed into will be in the PHB as well. The races may be bigger mechanically, and magic items are now in the PHB in the equipment lists. All on top of the combat rules already in there.Star Wars SAGA saga showed they could pack a lot into a similar size book with an odd square format, so I may be exaggerating a bit. But I think that the recent apparent increase in page count for the PHB is not Wizards adding new stuff in but realizing they didn't have enough space for what they'd already planned.</blockquote>

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