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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6585474" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Well, if you're not going to read what I said....</p><p></p><p>I said that in a <em>fantasy game like D&D</em> we an make absolute assumptions because <em>it's a fantasy game</em>. In D&D, some monsters are always the bad guys. Always. And hundreds of thousands of players like it that way because they don't want to have a philosophical discussion about moral relativity in a freaking <em>fantasy game.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So now you've moved to calling me someone who lacks a moral compass because my PCs would kill a dragon? Classy. There are a million other ways for me to have discussions about the right and wrong of various moralities...like just sitting around and talking. Playing D&D is not the time or place, and certainly isn't a very good tool, to try to lecture the players about how my morality is right and they're all a bunch of psychopathic killers.</p><p></p><p>And yes, there are LOTS of impartial DMs. But it appears that you're so blinded by your own views and insisting others share them, that it doesn't surprise me that you think DMs can't be impartial. I also don't think you know what impartial means. It certainly doesn't mean taking sides on a moral stance. Quite the opposite in fact. Luckily, impartiality is something we can measure objectively by looking at how often the DM took one side over the other. If that answer is "never', then you have a pure impartial DM. Which lots of DMs are. Like I said, there's a reason why it was called a "referee".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6585474, member: 15700"] Well, if you're not going to read what I said.... I said that in a [i]fantasy game like D&D[/i] we an make absolute assumptions because [i]it's a fantasy game[/i]. In D&D, some monsters are always the bad guys. Always. And hundreds of thousands of players like it that way because they don't want to have a philosophical discussion about moral relativity in a freaking [i]fantasy game.[/i] So now you've moved to calling me someone who lacks a moral compass because my PCs would kill a dragon? Classy. There are a million other ways for me to have discussions about the right and wrong of various moralities...like just sitting around and talking. Playing D&D is not the time or place, and certainly isn't a very good tool, to try to lecture the players about how my morality is right and they're all a bunch of psychopathic killers. And yes, there are LOTS of impartial DMs. But it appears that you're so blinded by your own views and insisting others share them, that it doesn't surprise me that you think DMs can't be impartial. I also don't think you know what impartial means. It certainly doesn't mean taking sides on a moral stance. Quite the opposite in fact. Luckily, impartiality is something we can measure objectively by looking at how often the DM took one side over the other. If that answer is "never', then you have a pure impartial DM. Which lots of DMs are. Like I said, there's a reason why it was called a "referee". [/QUOTE]
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