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<blockquote data-quote="tuxgeo" data-source="post: 5655476" data-attributes="member: 61026">As a crazy kind of sidelight on this: you say &quot;The 4e books would do so much better, . . .&quot; -- but would it be equally fair to say that &quot;The 4e presentation would do so much better, . . .?&quot; [substituting &quot;presentation&quot; for &quot;books&quot;]I guess that my point is really this: would it have helped the 4e presentation if the PHB had included valid web addresses at wizards.com (outside the paywall, and easy to find!) for the following: (a) 1 .ZIP file containing 128 different valid, first-level characters* to be used as conceptual examples or as pregenerated PCs -- each one with several suggestions of race-appropriate names to give them (and emphasizing the possible thematic differences available from various race/class/feat/skill combinations) * [not entire characters sheets: don't give away the text of the powers]; (b) 1 .ZIP file containing actual game transcripts that emphasize the roleplaying aspect; (c) Multiple (16? 32? 26? 8?) .ZIP files containing recordings of actual game sessions. [Except that, you know, they incrementally did that after the fact; still, though, the URL addresses of those files weren't published in the PHB where newbies could find them easily -- because the recordings hadn't been made by the time the PHB was published.]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tuxgeo, post: 5655476, member: 61026"] As a crazy kind of sidelight on this: you say "The 4e books would do so much better, . . ." -- but would it be equally fair to say that "The 4e presentation would do so much better, . . .?" [SIZE=1][substituting "presentation" for "books"][/SIZE] I guess that my point is really this: would it have helped the 4e presentation if the PHB had included valid web addresses at wizards.com (outside the paywall, and easy to find!) for the following: (a) 1 .ZIP file containing 128 different valid, first-level characters* to be used as conceptual examples or as pregenerated PCs -- each one with several suggestions of race-appropriate names to give them (and emphasizing the possible thematic differences available from various race/class/feat/skill combinations) * [not entire characters sheets: don't give away the text of the powers]; (b) 1 .ZIP file containing actual game transcripts that emphasize the roleplaying aspect; (c) Multiple (16? 32? 26? 8?) .ZIP files containing recordings of actual game sessions. [Except that, you know, they incrementally did that after the fact; still, though, the URL addresses of those files weren't published in the PHB where newbies could find them easily -- because the recordings hadn't been made by the time the PHB was published.] [/QUOTE]

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