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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Erf" data-source="post: 1402539" data-attributes="member: 16663">Vincent Whiteleaf's Bogus JourneyThat's not quite what I was thinking.  Use Sanguinary Deception, then have somebody beat him until he "dies".  Then they get his body back to his freezer, while Vincent finds the skull and destroys it.Ah!  That simplifies the problem slightly; at least he can get to hell without too much trouble.  Getting to the skull might be more of a challenge, depending on exactly where he shows up.He will if he has to.  I (Rob) think this would be a great way to go.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />   There are several reasons not to follow this course of action, though:- He may or may not manage to find the Skull of St John before his soul is eaten. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />  (If he's lucky his soul would be sucked through the pillar and show up right near the altar in Hell.  If he's really lucky, the altar wouldn't even be guarded...  Odds are against both statements, though.)- Disintigrating the Skull of St John may or may not seal off the Fire Pillar, and may or may not destroy Scornubel in the process.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  (More information about this Skull would be extremely valuable in this regard.)- It would be dreadfully dull for the rest of the players. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />  (A metagame reason, but probably the strongest reason overall.)So in summary, it might work, but as a player I doubt we want to go through with it.  Vincent does realize it might be the "only" way, though.  Thoughts?</blockquote>

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