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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7727349"><p>Start off my morning with a mega-response...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Count me in that camp. I don't own SCAG because it's mostly about a setting I don't like.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The name lists are also useful for DMs improvising NPCs. Or, heck, creating NPCs in between sessions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I pondered that, too. Maybe it's not about the knots themselves, but about their uses. I.e., what skills and what DCs you use to either tie somebody up, or to escape from being tied up? But, yeah, it seems odd.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is absolutely unavoidable that <em>some</em> fans will be disappointed by whatever decision they make. Me? I'd be disappointed if they added too many sub-classes overall, and a few specific ones (a couple of which did get through). I'll be disappointed if Mystic becomes an official class.</p><p></p><p>The question is: how do we express our disappointment? Do we say on the forums, "Gee, I really don't like this decision, and here's why.." Or do we ramp it up and try to offer incontrovertible proof that WotC sucks and we have a right to be apoplectic? Or do we leave the game entirely? (Honestly, it should be a or c but never b.) </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, me too. By definition there has never been a supplement with enough pages. Right? Every time a supplement comes out the forums light up with complaints about what's missing and what pages were wasted. Especially when it comes to player options, which are like crack for gamers. And yet every single time there are posters who are convinced it is because of incompetence, or the rejection of a sub-group of players, or allegiance to Orcus.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You lost me....how is reprinting the same as "eliminating" stuff. Unless you mean that they didn't reprint everything, and so the stuff that wasn't reprinted has been eliminated? </p><p></p><p>And your conclusion is...strange. Maybe they are just acknowledging that some of those options are popular, and you shouldn't have to own a source book to a particular setting in order to have access to them? </p><p></p><p>But, hey, tinfoil on.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what online spell lists are for, imo. Google "Grimoire 5e".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7727349"] Start off my morning with a mega-response... Count me in that camp. I don't own SCAG because it's mostly about a setting I don't like. The name lists are also useful for DMs improvising NPCs. Or, heck, creating NPCs in between sessions. I pondered that, too. Maybe it's not about the knots themselves, but about their uses. I.e., what skills and what DCs you use to either tie somebody up, or to escape from being tied up? But, yeah, it seems odd. It is absolutely unavoidable that [I]some[/I] fans will be disappointed by whatever decision they make. Me? I'd be disappointed if they added too many sub-classes overall, and a few specific ones (a couple of which did get through). I'll be disappointed if Mystic becomes an official class. The question is: how do we express our disappointment? Do we say on the forums, "Gee, I really don't like this decision, and here's why.." Or do we ramp it up and try to offer incontrovertible proof that WotC sucks and we have a right to be apoplectic? Or do we leave the game entirely? (Honestly, it should be a or c but never b.) Yeah, me too. By definition there has never been a supplement with enough pages. Right? Every time a supplement comes out the forums light up with complaints about what's missing and what pages were wasted. Especially when it comes to player options, which are like crack for gamers. And yet every single time there are posters who are convinced it is because of incompetence, or the rejection of a sub-group of players, or allegiance to Orcus. You lost me....how is reprinting the same as "eliminating" stuff. Unless you mean that they didn't reprint everything, and so the stuff that wasn't reprinted has been eliminated? And your conclusion is...strange. Maybe they are just acknowledging that some of those options are popular, and you shouldn't have to own a source book to a particular setting in order to have access to them? But, hey, tinfoil on. That's what online spell lists are for, imo. Google "Grimoire 5e". [/QUOTE]
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