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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8071517" data-attributes="member: 93670">Another way might be instead of +strength to damage&nbsp; break extra attacks into two abilities like so:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Martial prowess At first level your skill with melee &amp; ranged weapons is beyond compare.&nbsp; Rather than relying on brute strength &amp; similar, each time you take the attack action against a single target you make a number of attacks equal to half your strength/dex mod rather than adding +STR or DEX to damage.&nbsp; Increase these attacks to half+1 &amp; half+1 at level 10 &amp; whatever</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Extra attack:&nbsp; At 5th level you make an additional set of&nbsp; attacks whenever you take the attack action at a -2 penalty This set of attacks can be against the original or a second target within reach.&nbsp; This scales to a third set of attacks at +4 at level 10 &amp; 4th at - whenever.</li>
</ul>Right out of the gate fighters are a whirlwind of strikes &amp; it only keeps going up from there.&nbsp; The loss of +STR is not a notable loss given&nbsp; the number of weapons with better average damage, increased attack chances, &amp; multiplication of magical effects on weapons themselves (which is also why those extra attack attack sets are made at -2/-4/-6 when magic items are almost guaranteed&nbsp; since the two skills are already multiplicative)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8071517, member: 93670"] Another way might be instead of +strength to damage break extra attacks into two abilities like so: [LIST] [*]Martial prowess At first level your skill with melee & ranged weapons is beyond compare. Rather than relying on brute strength & similar, each time you take the attack action against a single target you make a number of attacks equal to half your strength/dex mod rather than adding +STR or DEX to damage. Increase these attacks to half+1 & half+1 at level 10 & whatever [*]Extra attack: At 5th level you make an additional set of attacks whenever you take the attack action at a -2 penalty This set of attacks can be against the original or a second target within reach. This scales to a third set of attacks at +4 at level 10 & 4th at - whenever. [/LIST] Right out of the gate fighters are a whirlwind of strikes & it only keeps going up from there. The loss of +STR is not a notable loss given the number of weapons with better average damage, increased attack chances, & multiplication of magical effects on weapons themselves (which is also why those extra attack attack sets are made at -2/-4/-6 when magic items are almost guaranteed since the two skills are already multiplicative) [/QUOTE]

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