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<blockquote data-quote="handforged" data-source="post: 909629" data-attributes="member: 2027">It seems a little heavy for me.&nbsp; First consider the class that is most similar... the rogue (or bard, but I will go with rogue here).&nbsp; You have equal skill points, higher HD, equal BAB, and only one good save like the rogue.&nbsp; Youe replace sneak attack and rogue abilities like evasion, uncanny dodge, high level rogue skills, etc. with limited spellcasting and lots of cool minor abilities.&nbsp; It seems that the niche you are trying to fill is that of the non-sneak attacking rogue, or the non-musical bard.I agree with Khorod's skill list and revision to the Versatility skill.I think that the Knowledgable ability should be delayed a level or two, and should be limited to just the Lore section.The Area of Study abilities, although of decent flavor value could probably be combined with Scholar Abilites.The signature skill is a cool ability.How about this progression with a d6 and same spells.1. Versatility, Area of Study2. Knowledgable3. Area of Study4-20. Area of Study at odd levels, Signature Skill at 10 and 20With the Scholar Abilities added into the Areas of Study, this is one less of the combined abilities than your progression.&nbsp; This class will be good at everything, but excel at nothing, the concept behind the bard, but without music, and a slightly reduced spellcasting prog.&nbsp; I think that the HD needs to be reduced because both of the similar classes have d6's and this class steals a little from both niches; the rogue's skillfulness, and the bard's jack-of-all-tradiness.I think it is a great idea and I thank you for making me think about it.~hf</blockquote>

[QUOTE="handforged, post: 909629, member: 2027"] It seems a little heavy for me. First consider the class that is most similar... the rogue (or bard, but I will go with rogue here). You have equal skill points, higher HD, equal BAB, and only one good save like the rogue. Youe replace sneak attack and rogue abilities like evasion, uncanny dodge, high level rogue skills, etc. with limited spellcasting and lots of cool minor abilities. It seems that the niche you are trying to fill is that of the non-sneak attacking rogue, or the non-musical bard. I agree with Khorod's skill list and revision to the Versatility skill. I think that the Knowledgable ability should be delayed a level or two, and should be limited to just the Lore section. The Area of Study abilities, although of decent flavor value could probably be combined with Scholar Abilites. The signature skill is a cool ability. How about this progression with a d6 and same spells. 1. Versatility, Area of Study 2. Knowledgable 3. Area of Study 4-20. Area of Study at odd levels, Signature Skill at 10 and 20 With the Scholar Abilities added into the Areas of Study, this is one less of the combined abilities than your progression. This class will be good at everything, but excel at nothing, the concept behind the bard, but without music, and a slightly reduced spellcasting prog. I think that the HD needs to be reduced because both of the similar classes have d6's and this class steals a little from both niches; the rogue's skillfulness, and the bard's jack-of-all-tradiness. I think it is a great idea and I thank you for making me think about it. ~hf [/QUOTE]

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