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The AI Red Scare is only harming artists and needs to stop.
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<blockquote data-quote="Anon Adderlan" data-source="post: 9369075" data-attributes="member: 53053"><p>So the convention I'm involved with recently declared all AI art to be bootlegs and that they will ban anyone on site for even promoting it. I of course brought up that by declaring a moral position as opposed to just a policy they were feeding into an ongoing conflict which was only harming artists.</p><p></p><p>one week later...</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=twitter]1798156960443044092[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>And here's an interview with <a href="https://www.patreon.com/kamranpasha" target="_blank">Kamran Pasha</a>, who is a member of The Writers Guild and virulently Anti-AI. Yet he both stated and clarified that it wasn't AI which cost writers jobs, but the actions of the guild itself. So much for unions benefitting their members.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]SXGG2qcLa3c[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>These are just the latest examples I found, and enough harm has been done at this point that I'm no longer humoring the gaslighting. No, AI training is <em>not</em> theft. No, AI training is <em>not</em> a violation of copyright. No, you don't have a point if your response to AI taking jobs is to quit taking jobs yourself. Its use has become just another thing someone can be falsely accused of with little recourse. And if you really want to continue pushing for 'ethical' training, just remember that indies are unlikely to ever afford the rights to enough content to train on, while Big Tech already has rights to all the content they'll ever need. And even if indies did there's no way for them to prove it. I'll let you decide who benefits more from that state of affairs.</p><p></p><p>So if you're a game designer it doesn't matter <em>if</em> you're using AI, only that people <em>think</em> you are. And if they do you will be harassed online and banned from selling your products at conventions. Which is bad news for Dennis Detwiller as apparently he <em>was</em> <a href="https://archive.is/wu298" target="_blank">exploiting temporal rifts to use AI in #DeltaGreen after all</a>.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]366642[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p> [<a href="https://www.humblebundle.com/books/delta-green-rpg-collection-arc-dream-books" target="_blank">Bundle for those interested</a>]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anon Adderlan, post: 9369075, member: 53053"] So the convention I'm involved with recently declared all AI art to be bootlegs and that they will ban anyone on site for even promoting it. I of course brought up that by declaring a moral position as opposed to just a policy they were feeding into an ongoing conflict which was only harming artists. one week later... [MEDIA=twitter]1798156960443044092[/MEDIA] And here's an interview with [URL='https://www.patreon.com/kamranpasha']Kamran Pasha[/URL], who is a member of The Writers Guild and virulently Anti-AI. Yet he both stated and clarified that it wasn't AI which cost writers jobs, but the actions of the guild itself. So much for unions benefitting their members. [MEDIA=youtube]SXGG2qcLa3c[/MEDIA] These are just the latest examples I found, and enough harm has been done at this point that I'm no longer humoring the gaslighting. No, AI training is [I]not[/I] theft. No, AI training is [I]not[/I] a violation of copyright. No, you don't have a point if your response to AI taking jobs is to quit taking jobs yourself. Its use has become just another thing someone can be falsely accused of with little recourse. And if you really want to continue pushing for 'ethical' training, just remember that indies are unlikely to ever afford the rights to enough content to train on, while Big Tech already has rights to all the content they'll ever need. And even if indies did there's no way for them to prove it. I'll let you decide who benefits more from that state of affairs. So if you're a game designer it doesn't matter [I]if[/I] you're using AI, only that people [I]think[/I] you are. And if they do you will be harassed online and banned from selling your products at conventions. Which is bad news for Dennis Detwiller as apparently he [I]was[/I] [URL='https://archive.is/wu298']exploiting temporal rifts to use AI in #DeltaGreen after all[/URL]. [ATTACH type="full" alt="Are you, or have you ever been, a robot?"]366642[/ATTACH] [[URL='https://www.humblebundle.com/books/delta-green-rpg-collection-arc-dream-books']Bundle for those interested[/URL]] [/QUOTE]
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