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The AI Red Scare is only harming artists and needs to stop.
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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9370796" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I don't agree with that description at all. The legal standard of fair use in the USA is whether or not the work is transformative. The work is clearly transformative. As a practical matter, everything that gets uploaded to the internet gets copied millions of times as an inherent aspect of the technology. The fact that a computer skimmed over billions of images and learned something from examining it doesn't violate the rights of the owners of those images. The fact that the computer skimmed over trillions of words of copyrighted material in order to learn something about language does not violate the rights of owners of those words. What the computer is doing is comparable to what anyone who reads or sees copyrighted material and has their behavior influenced by that. The people who wrote those skimming programs were doing nothing that was dissimilar to a search engine reading text in order to create search indexes. The index is a transformative work. And they had every right to use things in this manner.</p><p></p><p>When these algorithms produce art it is clearly original art. It's clearly transformative. You can't mimic the work of the AI by creating a mosaic or a collage. I see so many bad attempts to prove that the AI did something unfair that involve representing the AI's work as a human created mosiac or collage. The irony. </p><p></p><p>When a composer like John Williams makes a piece of music, it's often inspired by music he has heard that was created by others. But, despite the phrases that might be familiar to musical aficionados, it is clearly transformative work. Being inspired by something else does not violate copyright.</p><p></p><p>Fundamentally, the argument you make has nothing to do with fairness. It's the same argument skilled scribes were making against typewriters or human computers were making against mechanical computers - my skills and my job had a certain amount of value that I worked hard to achieve and now your machine is threatening that value. And yes, if that were true that could potentially suck, but fairness isn't the problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9370796, member: 4937"] I don't agree with that description at all. The legal standard of fair use in the USA is whether or not the work is transformative. The work is clearly transformative. As a practical matter, everything that gets uploaded to the internet gets copied millions of times as an inherent aspect of the technology. The fact that a computer skimmed over billions of images and learned something from examining it doesn't violate the rights of the owners of those images. The fact that the computer skimmed over trillions of words of copyrighted material in order to learn something about language does not violate the rights of owners of those words. What the computer is doing is comparable to what anyone who reads or sees copyrighted material and has their behavior influenced by that. The people who wrote those skimming programs were doing nothing that was dissimilar to a search engine reading text in order to create search indexes. The index is a transformative work. And they had every right to use things in this manner. When these algorithms produce art it is clearly original art. It's clearly transformative. You can't mimic the work of the AI by creating a mosaic or a collage. I see so many bad attempts to prove that the AI did something unfair that involve representing the AI's work as a human created mosiac or collage. The irony. When a composer like John Williams makes a piece of music, it's often inspired by music he has heard that was created by others. But, despite the phrases that might be familiar to musical aficionados, it is clearly transformative work. Being inspired by something else does not violate copyright. Fundamentally, the argument you make has nothing to do with fairness. It's the same argument skilled scribes were making against typewriters or human computers were making against mechanical computers - my skills and my job had a certain amount of value that I worked hard to achieve and now your machine is threatening that value. And yes, if that were true that could potentially suck, but fairness isn't the problem. [/QUOTE]
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