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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Swanosaurus" data-source="post: 9373173" data-attributes="member: 7044220">Sorry, but to me that sounds like you're saying: "I'd like to put the burden of proof on the other side because it suits my argument better to do so."You wrote:So you're saying that caliming that AI art processing is fundamentally different from human art processing is "as much a claim as to the contrary", and I have to call BS on that. I'm not saying that it necessarily is fundamentally different, but the burden of proof definitely lies with the theory that it is fundamentally the same as human art processing. Otherwise, you could claim pretty much anything about any new technology in the flimsiest of evidence and say "and now prove me wrong." And that has implications. If you say "a car works basically in the same way as a horse, because both are used to transport people from A to B and need some kind of fuel to do so", you certainly haven't succesfully put the burden of proof on the other side; and you certainly can't claim from that that the same moral and legal standards should apply to both cars and horses until someone proves you wrong.And here it's the same. You can't act as if the same moral and legal standards as to a person should apply to an AI; a human being has the right and the need to use their senses to broaden their horizon, learn and let themselves be inspired; an AI can be directed to let itself be "inspired" and "learn", but these are actually nothing but potentially misleading metaphors for whatever it does - as far as I can see, there is no indication that AI "learning" and "inspiration" are processes that are in any way similar to human processes of learning and inspiration; the AI ouput I have seen certainly don't suggest any but the most superficial similarities. If you want to claim that AI "learning" and "inspiration" are substantially similar tu human learning and inspiration, beyond the metaphor of calling what the AI does "learning" and "inspiration", the burden of proof is squarely on you.</blockquote>

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