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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 9373810" data-attributes="member: 50987">This is just one layer of a complicated problem.  You are absolutely right: many people are only interested in the image itself, not any meaning or intent behind it.  And that, in itself, can also be a type of expression.  Art is subjective, and interpretations and appreciations vary across the medium....but can a computer also be subjective and meaningful? or is it always going to be just an image? and does/will/should the consumer even care one way or the other?[ATTACH=full]367308[/ATTACH]"Mmm, yes, bold application over non-traditional media.Very assertive, forceful yet passive.  What is this piece called?"I chose abstract expressionism to make my point because it's so divisive, even in the art community.  But my point stands across all types of visual art, from avant garde photography to, I dunno, watercolor cubism or what have you.It's true that we engineers see the world differently.  What my nephew calls "a weird candy-cane pipe" is actually the vent for a vacuum break on a large water pipeline, and he has no idea the amount of pain and frustration I had to go through to make sure it was properly sized and placed. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  The people who use that water line probably have no idea what it's for, either...they probably only see an eyesore that they have to mow around.  But I didn't place it there because I was making a statement or decorating the side of the road...I put it there to keep the pipe from collapsing.  It's shaped that way to keep rainwater from falling in, and to keep debris from getting sucked upward when it activates.  It might be interesting to look at and talk about, but it's not "art."[ATTACH=full]367302[/ATTACH]I call this piece, "Iron Candy Cane," a study in shapes and textures thattruly defines the struggle of industry against lawnmowers and... um, bicycle traffic...also something about contrast?This is an argument as old as photography.  Is art the image?  or is art the person looking at it?  I doubt this will be resolved anytime soon, and AI isn't going to help.  But speaking only for myself:  I think it's an overstatement to say that the general public doesn't care about artistic expression, and I think it's lazy to assume that artists are all pretentious elitists who can't/won't communicate with non-artists.Also, and still just speaking for myself here:  I think AI is being promoted by large corporations because it lends itself so well to the generation of corporate logos, product ads, and ad copy.  If corporations are people, as I've heard them described, then I think they are the sort of "people" who would most appreciate AI-generated materials.[ATTACH=full]367305[/ATTACH]One monkey, three minutes:  free company logo for a pencil sharpening app that I just made up. </blockquote>

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