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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sarellion" data-source="post: 2218802" data-attributes="member: 6254">You are right. I checked the section as I wrote it but somehow forgot to correct this.Does Aleasana still support thousands of people or are these  cities all villages with a few hundred people. If a large valley can support several thousand people they can support a smaller number of larger people, too. I think we still are talking about people ogre size, not dragon size. Virgon valley has three cities for an example. No one shrinks because there is a harsh winter. This happens over several generations. If they were hit so hard by the weather, they would have lost. Well you started suggesting that the Asani could have used magic to shrink them as a possibility. I just wanted to point out that there were other options they would rather use if they had access to magic. My options were probably more low level than shrinking the whole population. I also know that Asani didn´t have arcane magic, so I used divine examples. It´s possible that the Asani had some druids. They didn´t have a nature goddess then but they could have worshipped nature itself, nature spirits or something like this. Druids are not necessarily priests of nature deities. That´s what clerics with appropriate domains are for.  About the high level guys. Well I assume that there are always some high level guys around in a setting, even if there are only a dozen of them.I didn´t say that they had to feed the whole host. I meant that some banded together and were able to feed this smaller host. The faith of Dar praises cold logic. Why shouldn´t a bunch of clerics band together with the old corrupt leadership and the other high level guys, grab some of the remaining food, some slaves and an elite guard and get themselves a nice place to stay. They could justify this by saying that this is the logic conclusion. The elite must survive to rebuild after the crisis.  Voila the Old Blooded. Credo: We are the best because we left everyone who was not of the old elite to starve in front of our gates. Praise us.Your example of the battle of the Thermopylae doesn´t fit. There were 7300 men against at least 120000. That´s 300 Spartans and 7000 greeks. They lost because they were unable to defend a second pass and got surrounded (either got betrayed or the general made a mistake).  They got defeated because the persian general had a huge, well equipped, well provisioned army. The example doesn´t fit. I assume that not every Aleasani in the country would band together in a large army just to go kill the few guys who still have food. Some of them would try to settle and grow food, others would go hunting or rob the natives and the settlers. If the grasslands are so fertile, some would have tried to eke out a living there. Also you have to feed this army attacking the fortress. If there is no food how do you sustain a large army. If you have a large army how do you distribute the little food you looted after your invasion. Who would lead the army if he realizes that there isn´t possibly enough food for everyone. a sensible leader would have tried to distribute the people in the land to cultivate every possible place.The most fitting example would be a medieval castle under siege. A bunch of people outside against a smaller bunch of people inside. The only exception, the guys inside have more to eat. Most sieges in medival times were won starving the people inside. The Asani had better weapons but it´s more probable that the majority of the last practitioners of this art if anyone were still alive were in the castle rather than outside.   A few hundred Asani should be enough to preserve the genepool. Some cow races have a much poorer breeding stock on the male side.What´s so wrong with an enclave of Asani on the mainland? I didn´t say that every Aleasani is a giant or so. It´s just a bunch of them descended from arrogant bastards , traitors and dishonorable leaders.I just have a problem that really every single member of the race shrunk in size because of food shortage. The land was devastated but people were able to live from it. They shrunk in general as a result but why should really every Asani got hit by it.</blockquote>

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