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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 452467" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>Re</strong></p><p></p><p>Most people choose to deride the alignment system because they feel it must be played exactly as written. That is not the case and never has been. It is simply a guideline for your character that determines his general outlook on life.</p><p></p><p>Vlad's alignment depends on whether he simply kills anyone for money, or if he is discerning. For example, if Vlad would kill a local woman of good character for money because he was paid by some tyrants who wanted to keep her from stirring the pot, then I would definitely say he is evil. It doesn't matter if occasionally saves babies, he is definitely evil.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if Vlad will only kill people of low character for money as in sticks to killing people who are part of the local crime element or evil nobility, then he may be chaotic neutral or true neutral. He has a personal code and refuses to undertake contracts that would cause him to kill innocents.</p><p></p><p>Batman is neutral good in my opinion. People are confusing justice and law, they are not one and the same. Justice has to do with promoting goodness, not lawfulness. Laws are created to make justice fair, which promotes lawfulness. That is the distinct difference between lawful and good. Lawful is more concerned with simply creating laws for an orderly society. The need for justice is secondary. Whereas a lawful good society is concerned with promoting fair justice, which means unjust laws will not be enacted because they are not good, not because they are not fair.</p><p></p><p>Thus, Batman is neutral good. He is concerned with the promotion of justice, but does not make a strong distinction between either a lawful or chaotic means of ensuring justice. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Robin Hood was neutral good as well. He was raised a noble. He only went outside the law because he felt the laws unjust. Normally, he would have followed just laws and supported a just king. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Alignment is an easy to handle tool that pretty fairly covers a persons basic worldview. I find that people who don't often use alignment tend to act in a chaotic manner because they have no defining worldview. In the real world people tend to have a personality that they follow daily. In the absence of alignment, most players tend to play their characters rather erratically and don't bother to ask the question: "Would this act fit my alignment?" </p><p></p><p>Alignment definitely helps develop the character and gives some kind of measuring stick for the characters actions. That is more real to me then some guy who rescues babies and then extorts money from someone. Such an inconsistent personality would not be believable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 452467, member: 5834"] [b]Re[/b] Most people choose to deride the alignment system because they feel it must be played exactly as written. That is not the case and never has been. It is simply a guideline for your character that determines his general outlook on life. Vlad's alignment depends on whether he simply kills anyone for money, or if he is discerning. For example, if Vlad would kill a local woman of good character for money because he was paid by some tyrants who wanted to keep her from stirring the pot, then I would definitely say he is evil. It doesn't matter if occasionally saves babies, he is definitely evil. On the other hand, if Vlad will only kill people of low character for money as in sticks to killing people who are part of the local crime element or evil nobility, then he may be chaotic neutral or true neutral. He has a personal code and refuses to undertake contracts that would cause him to kill innocents. Batman is neutral good in my opinion. People are confusing justice and law, they are not one and the same. Justice has to do with promoting goodness, not lawfulness. Laws are created to make justice fair, which promotes lawfulness. That is the distinct difference between lawful and good. Lawful is more concerned with simply creating laws for an orderly society. The need for justice is secondary. Whereas a lawful good society is concerned with promoting fair justice, which means unjust laws will not be enacted because they are not good, not because they are not fair. Thus, Batman is neutral good. He is concerned with the promotion of justice, but does not make a strong distinction between either a lawful or chaotic means of ensuring justice. Robin Hood was neutral good as well. He was raised a noble. He only went outside the law because he felt the laws unjust. Normally, he would have followed just laws and supported a just king. Alignment is an easy to handle tool that pretty fairly covers a persons basic worldview. I find that people who don't often use alignment tend to act in a chaotic manner because they have no defining worldview. In the real world people tend to have a personality that they follow daily. In the absence of alignment, most players tend to play their characters rather erratically and don't bother to ask the question: "Would this act fit my alignment?" Alignment definitely helps develop the character and gives some kind of measuring stick for the characters actions. That is more real to me then some guy who rescues babies and then extorts money from someone. Such an inconsistent personality would not be believable. [/QUOTE]
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