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<blockquote data-quote="NoOneofConsequence" data-source="post: 453321" data-attributes="member: 5400"><p><strong>As per Edena's request</strong></p><p></p><p>Some simple observations from my campaign:</p><p>Lawful: duties are more important than individual rights.</p><p></p><p>Chaotic: individual’s rights are more important than duties.</p><p></p><p>True Neutral: apathy. If morality exists then it’s probably relative. The philosophy of pure intellectuals and agnostics (with regards to divine powers).</p><p></p><p>The Nine (as I see ‘em and call ‘em)</p><p></p><p><strong>Lawful Good</strong></p><p>To do good and to see good done is the highest virtue. Order is the best way to do this, because disorder (Chaos) makes all things more possible, including evil. Laws should be made to achieve the maximum good (ideally, for all). The weak should be defended, the hungry fed etc. Laws which deliberately make for unjust or evil outcomes are by definition not good. If the laws which exist do not achieve good, then the laws must be changed. This change should be pursued lawfully where possible, but in extreme circumstances opposition to the current order is permissible.</p><p></p><p><strong>Lawful Neutral</strong></p><p>Order is everything. Good and evil are irrelevant. Only order matters. Sanctions must be developed to enforce order and those sanctions must be applied. The law must be obeyed. In extreme cases, even individuality is unacceptable and “free spirited” thinking is always untrustworthy. </p><p></p><p><strong>Lawful Evil</strong></p><p>Order and society are wonderful, just so long as I’m at the top of the pile. Laws exist to exalt the elite and to keep the sheep in line. Breaking the law should only be done if you can get away with it and of course, chaos is bad for business. Revolutions are all well and good in order to get a throne, but once your on that throne, the systematic application of force to maintain your control (and for your own pleasure) is the reason that laws really exist.</p><p></p><p><strong>Neutral Good</strong></p><p>The greatest good for the greatest number, but good is often different based on the situation. Laws are all well and good but often laws are unresponsive to changing circumstances and take too long to change. Do good, but realise that sometimes you will end up in conflict with the powers that be.</p><p></p><p><strong>Neutral</strong></p><p>Don’t know, don’t care. Morality is so shifting and complicated that it’s pointless to take a stance overall. Deal with each situation as it comes and make decisions on the balance of factors.</p><p></p><p><strong>Neutral Evil</strong></p><p>There is no greater joy than to harm others. To cause suffering and pain in whatever way you can is what life is really about. A persons power and identity is defined in the pain, suffering and control which they can inflict on others.</p><p></p><p><strong>Chaotic Good</strong></p><p>The greatest good is found in freedom, and as such the rights of the individual are paramount. To be free, to follow your heart, these are paths to goodness and happiness. Society does not have the right to way down the individual with excessive rules or duties, because such things stifle freedom.</p><p></p><p><strong>Chaotic Neutral</strong></p><p>If you like how it feels, then it can’t be bad. You don’t really have to care about good and evil if you don’t want to. Just let everyone look out for themselves and enjoy. As long as I’m ok, everything’s fine. I might care about some people, if I want. But I don’t have to and you can’t make me.</p><p></p><p><strong>Chaotic Evil</strong></p><p>Everything should be destroyed and I’m going to destroy it just to watch it burn. I don’t care about the pain caused; suffering can be funny to watch; I don’t care about you or anyone. Hell, I hardly even care about me. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Some examples:</p><p>LG</p><p>True Communism (the ideal, not Marxism/Leninism);</p><p></p><p>LN</p><p>Marxism/Leninism; Judge Dredd; </p><p></p><p>LE</p><p>Stalinism; Nazism; MacArthyism</p><p></p><p>NG</p><p></p><p></p><p>N</p><p>Stereotype Research Scientist;</p><p></p><p>NE</p><p>Hannibal Lecter</p><p></p><p>CG</p><p>The Declaration of Independence</p><p></p><p>CN</p><p>The Flower Power generation (especially Haight Ashbury); </p><p></p><p>CE</p><p>Soccer hooligans;</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NoOneofConsequence, post: 453321, member: 5400"] [b]As per Edena's request[/b] Some simple observations from my campaign: Lawful: duties are more important than individual rights. Chaotic: individual’s rights are more important than duties. True Neutral: apathy. If morality exists then it’s probably relative. The philosophy of pure intellectuals and agnostics (with regards to divine powers). The Nine (as I see ‘em and call ‘em) [b]Lawful Good[/b] To do good and to see good done is the highest virtue. Order is the best way to do this, because disorder (Chaos) makes all things more possible, including evil. Laws should be made to achieve the maximum good (ideally, for all). The weak should be defended, the hungry fed etc. Laws which deliberately make for unjust or evil outcomes are by definition not good. If the laws which exist do not achieve good, then the laws must be changed. This change should be pursued lawfully where possible, but in extreme circumstances opposition to the current order is permissible. [b]Lawful Neutral[/b] Order is everything. Good and evil are irrelevant. Only order matters. Sanctions must be developed to enforce order and those sanctions must be applied. The law must be obeyed. In extreme cases, even individuality is unacceptable and “free spirited” thinking is always untrustworthy. [b]Lawful Evil[/b] Order and society are wonderful, just so long as I’m at the top of the pile. Laws exist to exalt the elite and to keep the sheep in line. Breaking the law should only be done if you can get away with it and of course, chaos is bad for business. Revolutions are all well and good in order to get a throne, but once your on that throne, the systematic application of force to maintain your control (and for your own pleasure) is the reason that laws really exist. [b]Neutral Good[/b] The greatest good for the greatest number, but good is often different based on the situation. Laws are all well and good but often laws are unresponsive to changing circumstances and take too long to change. Do good, but realise that sometimes you will end up in conflict with the powers that be. [b]Neutral[/b] Don’t know, don’t care. Morality is so shifting and complicated that it’s pointless to take a stance overall. Deal with each situation as it comes and make decisions on the balance of factors. [b]Neutral Evil[/b] There is no greater joy than to harm others. To cause suffering and pain in whatever way you can is what life is really about. A persons power and identity is defined in the pain, suffering and control which they can inflict on others. [b]Chaotic Good[/b] The greatest good is found in freedom, and as such the rights of the individual are paramount. To be free, to follow your heart, these are paths to goodness and happiness. Society does not have the right to way down the individual with excessive rules or duties, because such things stifle freedom. [b]Chaotic Neutral[/b] If you like how it feels, then it can’t be bad. You don’t really have to care about good and evil if you don’t want to. Just let everyone look out for themselves and enjoy. As long as I’m ok, everything’s fine. I might care about some people, if I want. But I don’t have to and you can’t make me. [b]Chaotic Evil[/b] Everything should be destroyed and I’m going to destroy it just to watch it burn. I don’t care about the pain caused; suffering can be funny to watch; I don’t care about you or anyone. Hell, I hardly even care about me. Some examples: LG True Communism (the ideal, not Marxism/Leninism); LN Marxism/Leninism; Judge Dredd; LE Stalinism; Nazism; MacArthyism NG N Stereotype Research Scientist; NE Hannibal Lecter CG The Declaration of Independence CN The Flower Power generation (especially Haight Ashbury); CE Soccer hooligans; [/QUOTE]
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