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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 7977413" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>Then your character loses his command, branded a traitor and stripped of everything as a person who prefer to let evil thing live on to perpetrate rape, murder and pillaging. He is not a good person for his fellow citizens.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your character is a fool. You can't reasons with these and you know it. Doing anything else is self delusions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You know that this is exactly what would happened from the start. Why taking time to negociate with your liege while people are getting killed from your inaction? This is pretty much heartless for me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably will not work. Banish them away is a better option. The half-orc you put into power will get killed very fast for being a weakling working for weaklings. Gruumsh will demand as much.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Your lord will not be happy. But will probably accept as the threat might be solved for good. A few years later as they come back... But on this one a LG would/will do that. Unless the non combatants try to fight back...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not stupid but does not reflect... the modern world. It does reflect the absolute dichotomy that the medieval times were in. You are good or evil. You are on one side or the other. Our side is the good side the other is evil. It was such a way that things happened. Now not only are we having a medieval period, but we have different races and gods. The orcs were created by an evil god to serve it. They are evil to the core.</p><p></p><p>You keep applying modern mentality when I tell you not to. <strong>I told you that from a modern POV in the real world you are absolutely right.</strong> So trying to convince me that, from a fantastical medieval pov your position is sustainable, is not working and will never get through.</p><p></p><p>Now if in your world orcs can be any alignment (such as in Wildemount) then diplomacy would stand a lot of chance to work and your propositions would take precedence. That much is obvious. But in a world where orcs are evil (and so are the "evil" races) and have no choice on the matter because the gods made it so then diplomacy is not a solution.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Corrected "you're character for Your". Again, I am sorry if it could have been taken as name calling. I reiterate that I have the utmost respect for Flamestrike.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 7977413, member: 6855114"] Then your character loses his command, branded a traitor and stripped of everything as a person who prefer to let evil thing live on to perpetrate rape, murder and pillaging. He is not a good person for his fellow citizens. Your character is a fool. You can't reasons with these and you know it. Doing anything else is self delusions. You know that this is exactly what would happened from the start. Why taking time to negociate with your liege while people are getting killed from your inaction? This is pretty much heartless for me. Probably will not work. Banish them away is a better option. The half-orc you put into power will get killed very fast for being a weakling working for weaklings. Gruumsh will demand as much. Your lord will not be happy. But will probably accept as the threat might be solved for good. A few years later as they come back... But on this one a LG would/will do that. Unless the non combatants try to fight back... Not stupid but does not reflect... the modern world. It does reflect the absolute dichotomy that the medieval times were in. You are good or evil. You are on one side or the other. Our side is the good side the other is evil. It was such a way that things happened. Now not only are we having a medieval period, but we have different races and gods. The orcs were created by an evil god to serve it. They are evil to the core. You keep applying modern mentality when I tell you not to. [B]I told you that from a modern POV in the real world you are absolutely right.[/B] So trying to convince me that, from a fantastical medieval pov your position is sustainable, is not working and will never get through. Now if in your world orcs can be any alignment (such as in Wildemount) then diplomacy would stand a lot of chance to work and your propositions would take precedence. That much is obvious. But in a world where orcs are evil (and so are the "evil" races) and have no choice on the matter because the gods made it so then diplomacy is not a solution. Edit: Corrected "you're character for Your". Again, I am sorry if it could have been taken as name calling. I reiterate that I have the utmost respect for Flamestrike. [/QUOTE]
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