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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5918622" data-attributes="member: 92511">I voted for Aasimar and Tieflings as they NOT, as several have noted, &quot;setting specific races.&quot; even if their pedigree of &quot;traditional&quot; from 2e Planescape is ignored, Tieflings were &quot;core&quot; to 4e...and thus, Aasimar are easily included as the flip-side of that &quot;core.&quot;Everything else...the OP said it in the opening post, &quot;setting specific.&quot; NONE of them should be presented as &quot;core races&quot; in 5e.Kender and gully dwarves go in the Krynn/Dragonlance setting book/module supplement.Thri-kreen and Muls go in the Dark Sun setting book/module supplement.Warforged...STAY IN EBERRON! They work there. They're cool there. They're part of the world history. They are &quot;core&quot; there. Shifters too, right? They're Eberron specific/originally aren't they? [I'm honestly not sure/don't remember.]As for the rest, I don't know where they're from, specifically...But regardless, wherever they originated, that's the Setting book/module supplement they go in...not in the PHB.If all of those individual setting books is an unrealistic expectation (and I am inclined to think it is), then a &quot;5e Complete Book of Races&quot; lumping them all in one book...talk about what world they originated in/their role/place in those worlds, their stats, abilities, etc...Add in a few others that aren't even on that list, some of the &quot;core race sub-races&quot; that don't make the cut in the PHB (and I'm hoping most of them DON'T!)...or *gasp* gods forbid, some that have never been done before?Maybe, some of the more common &quot;Monster Races&quot; could go in there too. Though I DO expect to see some guidelines/rules for generating those in the Monster Manual, itself.So, yeah, put 'em in a &quot;Complete Races&quot; book/module supplement. Not muddying the waters in the primary/[hopefully] simple/&quot;core&quot; release of the PHB.And on that note, though it's relatively unrelated, can I get an &quot;Amen&quot; (or just verbal/posted agreement that WotC will hopefully see) to have &quot;A&quot;...&quot;Single&quot;...&quot;Uno&quot;...&quot;1&quot; PHB! --SD</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5918622, member: 92511"] I voted for Aasimar and Tieflings as they NOT, as several have noted, "setting specific races." even if their pedigree of "traditional" from 2e Planescape is ignored, Tieflings were "core" to 4e...and thus, Aasimar are easily included as the flip-side of that "core." Everything else...the OP said it in the opening post, "setting specific." NONE of them should be presented as "core races" in 5e. Kender and gully dwarves go in the Krynn/Dragonlance setting book/module supplement. Thri-kreen and Muls go in the Dark Sun setting book/module supplement. Warforged...STAY IN EBERRON! They work there. They're cool[I] there.[/I] They're part of the world history. They are "core" [I]there[/I]. Shifters too, right? They're Eberron specific/originally aren't they? [I'm honestly not sure/don't remember.] As for the rest, I don't know where they're from, specifically...But regardless, wherever they originated, that's the Setting book/module supplement they go in...not in the PHB. If all of those individual setting books is an unrealistic expectation (and I am inclined to think it is), then a "5e Complete Book of Races" lumping them all in one book...talk about what world they originated in/their role/place in those worlds, their stats, abilities, etc... Add in a few others that aren't even on that list, some of the "core race sub-races" that don't make the cut in the PHB (and I'm hoping most of them DON'T!)...or *gasp* gods forbid, some that have never been done before? Maybe, some of the more common "Monster Races" could go in there too. Though I DO expect to see some guidelines/rules for generating those in the Monster Manual, itself. So, yeah, put 'em in a "Complete Races" book/module supplement. Not muddying the waters in the primary/[hopefully] simple/"core" release of the PHB. And on that note, though it's relatively unrelated, can I get an "Amen" (or just verbal/posted agreement that WotC will hopefully see) to have "A"..."Single"..."Uno"..."1" PHB! --SD [/QUOTE]

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