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<blockquote data-quote="Cthulhudrew" data-source="post: 3249976" data-attributes="member: 4090"><p>Beat me to it. Yes, I think Magneto is the poster boy for the Anti-Villain. Quite possibly the only one (I have been racking my brain and can't think of anyone else.)</p><p></p><p>[EDIT- Thought of one.]</p><p></p><p>Thinking about it more, I think that Gerald Tarrant, from CS Friedman's <em>Coldfire</em> trilogy, would also be in the same category- gray area as it is. Tarrant is a man who was one of the greatest figures in his planet's history for achievements on behalf of mankind, but who deliberately committed acts of villainy and essentially sold his soul for eternal life largely out of a sense of vanity, but also that he might continue his researches and achievements for mankind. He did indeed manage to accomplish many wondrous things (such as the eventual creation of a "true" horse like those back on Earth), however his pacts with evil forces required him to continue to prey on humanity, and kept him from being able to share his achievements with them.</p><p></p><p>Throughout the series, up until the end, he struggles with his need to remain true to his evil nature, but his sense of self-preservation and necessity forces him to do essentially good things (until, eventually, his good side does come back to the fore in the end).</p><p></p><p>Another one I thought of is the most recent depictions of Baron Zemo (Marvel comics). He has committed many acts of villainy in the pursuit of a higher good, because he feels he is the only one suited to make those choices. His goal is to save the world by ruling it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cthulhudrew, post: 3249976, member: 4090"] Beat me to it. Yes, I think Magneto is the poster boy for the Anti-Villain. Quite possibly the only one (I have been racking my brain and can't think of anyone else.) [EDIT- Thought of one.] Thinking about it more, I think that Gerald Tarrant, from CS Friedman's [I]Coldfire[/I] trilogy, would also be in the same category- gray area as it is. Tarrant is a man who was one of the greatest figures in his planet's history for achievements on behalf of mankind, but who deliberately committed acts of villainy and essentially sold his soul for eternal life largely out of a sense of vanity, but also that he might continue his researches and achievements for mankind. He did indeed manage to accomplish many wondrous things (such as the eventual creation of a "true" horse like those back on Earth), however his pacts with evil forces required him to continue to prey on humanity, and kept him from being able to share his achievements with them. Throughout the series, up until the end, he struggles with his need to remain true to his evil nature, but his sense of self-preservation and necessity forces him to do essentially good things (until, eventually, his good side does come back to the fore in the end). Another one I thought of is the most recent depictions of Baron Zemo (Marvel comics). He has committed many acts of villainy in the pursuit of a higher good, because he feels he is the only one suited to make those choices. His goal is to save the world by ruling it. [/QUOTE]
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