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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8036165" data-attributes="member: 6803643">Also, are we talking about Classical/Renaissance-style nudes, or are we talking about fully-clothed (and armoured) characters?D&D is a fantasy Roleplaying game with a heavy focus on combat as a key component of the game. You can emphasize other portions of the game (and my favourite nights do), but "most hero characters wear armour" is a base assumption of the game. Most fantasy RPG artwork is of player characters and/or antagonists (though I love me a good painting of the innkeep or shopkeep getting caught in the middle of the PCs' shenanigans). Armour should not be showing mammaries. Full stop. It's a deathtrap. Even light armour would be finding a way to work around this with flat plates and padding to make it harder for weapons to pierce vulnerable areas.Armour is a equalizing factor - look at Cara & She-Ra in doctorbadwolf's images above. Neither emphasize their chests in their armoured costumes, because doing that is calling out "point sword here."I think focusing on whether or not goblins have breasts and how large are they and how many do they have is often going to be irrelevant.But sure, maybe the goblins are like those from Sir Peter Jackson's take on Goblin-town, and wear Gollum-like loincloths and nothing more, rather than the fully-armoured Goblin armies pursuing the Fellowship in Moria (or any Orcs in Middle-earth, but I'm sticking to the films because they decided, like D&D, to separate Goblins from Orcs for "Reasons" ®). In that case, maybe you care about what they look like as they're pursuing the Company.I'd argue that as with An Unexpected Journey and with Labyrinth, Goblins could be male or female and you wouldn't know it, because these are degenerate troglodytic people of an already twisted race of mutilated, twisted, tortured, defiled, corrupted, and indoctrinated Elves and/or Humans. Or they sprung from mud (but were somehow cross-bred by Saruman) per the Fellowship film. Either way, the concept of gender, orientation, and sexuality doesn't seem to apply to Goblins when used for this purpose. If we're talking instead about Goblins in a setting like Warcraft, where they have a complex history as a native race of Azeroth that were enslaved, then later recruited into the Horde as a witty inventors and artificers, then we again come back to the question: why are we worrying about secondary characteristics in Goblin anatomy? Most are going to wear clothes, armor, schizotech that makes it hard to tell, and it doesn't really matter in the long run.If I had to choose a particularly "feminine" Goblin form, I would say the Pathfinder image from earlier up the thread is better than most. The lipstick is a bit silly, but it evokes female without screaming "I exist for male viewers titillation." It's still silly, and as fun as the silly-Goblins trope is, we should be aware of when that trope is linked to denigrating depictions of other cultures of humans in the real world (there's a definite risk of leaning toward minstrel-play when it comes to "those silly goblins").</blockquote>

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