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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 5973577" data-attributes="member: 25619">I think this is why we're vehemently disagreeing.&nbsp; Derren and I had a different view of what we're talking about than you did, Celebrim.The relevant quotes are (IMHO):&quot;Fortune favors the brave.&quot;&nbsp; -- Terence, Roman playwrite, 2nd century BC&quot;Fortune is always on the side of the big battalions.&quot;-Marie de Sevigne, a French noblewoman in the 1600s (Louis XIV era)&quot;Give me some men who are stout-hearted men,Who will fight, for the right they adore,Start me with ten who are stout-hearted men,And I'll soon give you ten thousand more.Shoulder to shoulder and bolder and bolder,They grow as they go to the fore.Then there's nothing in the world can halt or mar a plan,When stout-hearted men can stick together man to man.&quot; -- Oscar Hammerstein, 1927.The song is about how a few stout-hearted men can inspire an army, not that they are better than an army, as I always assumed.''Who dares wins&quot; -- British Special Air Service motto, World War III'm not sure that either theory (numbers or elites) is the property of any particular era.&nbsp; I think both are have a nugget of truth, probably always have, and probably always will.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 5973577, member: 25619"] I think this is why we're vehemently disagreeing. Derren and I had a different view of what we're talking about than you did, Celebrim. The relevant quotes are (IMHO): "Fortune favors the brave." -- Terence, Roman playwrite, 2nd century BC "Fortune is always on the side of the big battalions."-Marie de Sevigne, a French noblewoman in the 1600s (Louis XIV era) "Give me some men who are stout-hearted men, Who will fight, for the right they adore, Start me with ten who are stout-hearted men, And I'll soon give you ten thousand more. Shoulder to shoulder and bolder and bolder, They grow as they go to the fore. Then there's nothing in the world can halt or mar a plan, When stout-hearted men can stick together man to man." -- Oscar Hammerstein, 1927. The song is about how a few stout-hearted men can inspire an army, not that they are better than an army, as I always assumed. ''Who dares wins" -- British Special Air Service motto, World War II I'm not sure that either theory (numbers or elites) is the property of any particular era. I think both are have a nugget of truth, probably always have, and probably always will. [/QUOTE]

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