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<blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 8525793" data-attributes="member: 3457"><p>So I’m not disagreeing with you but you just committed an example of what he’s saying and you’re 100% right and that’s why these things are steps and take time to happen. When people feel preached at they don’t listen but it even extends into those marginalized people at the same time. They don’t want to listen to it either after a certain point even when it benefits them. It’s kind of crazy. Sometimes people shut down because even when they go above and beyond to do these things they feel like they’re being told it’s never enough and they just give up and stop listening to anyone. It does become a sort of passive bullying which is recognized as a form of abusive. To continually repeat the same criticism at someone over and over, even with the best intention and when they are making a genuine attempt to make those changes being addressed, it turns into abuse as browbeating. Does it excuse the other abuses going on? Nah. And I’m definitely not saying shut up or stop or anything but just the mechanism of why people quit listening, including those who are the perceived beneficiary of the advice so don’t take this as me saying anything like “you should stop or shut up”. I don’t think you’re bullying anyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="teitan, post: 8525793, member: 3457"] So I’m not disagreeing with you but you just committed an example of what he’s saying and you’re 100% right and that’s why these things are steps and take time to happen. When people feel preached at they don’t listen but it even extends into those marginalized people at the same time. They don’t want to listen to it either after a certain point even when it benefits them. It’s kind of crazy. Sometimes people shut down because even when they go above and beyond to do these things they feel like they’re being told it’s never enough and they just give up and stop listening to anyone. It does become a sort of passive bullying which is recognized as a form of abusive. To continually repeat the same criticism at someone over and over, even with the best intention and when they are making a genuine attempt to make those changes being addressed, it turns into abuse as browbeating. Does it excuse the other abuses going on? Nah. And I’m definitely not saying shut up or stop or anything but just the mechanism of why people quit listening, including those who are the perceived beneficiary of the advice so don’t take this as me saying anything like “you should stop or shut up”. I don’t think you’re bullying anyone. [/QUOTE]
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