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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8527242"><p>My point is it is unclear what you mean when you say harm, and using that term, invokes the power of something that is physically harmful (it is like how we use the term safety in RPGs today and consent: those things invoke physical safety or sexual assault, so using them to apply to socially uncomfortable situations, feels like a way of easily persuading people to the importance of safety tools by using fuzzy language). Here it is the same. If you are worried about promoting stereotypes, we should talk about that. If you are worried about something being offensive, or making a person uncomfortable, we should talk about that. I think calling it harm, is misleading (because peoples' minds go to things like physical harm, serious harm, not necessarily to being uncomfortable or promoting stereotypes). Now if you feel the net effect of this, leads to harm, fair enough say that too (the use of stereotypes leads to physical harm). I just think folding it all under harm, both clouds the discussion and causes people to take the discussion less seriously because we don't necessarily know what issues people are concerned about. </p><p></p><p>And also to be clear on GAZ 10, I haven't read it so I can't weigh in there. I am just speaking more generally about RPG content that people find troubling for a variety of reasons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 8527242"] My point is it is unclear what you mean when you say harm, and using that term, invokes the power of something that is physically harmful (it is like how we use the term safety in RPGs today and consent: those things invoke physical safety or sexual assault, so using them to apply to socially uncomfortable situations, feels like a way of easily persuading people to the importance of safety tools by using fuzzy language). Here it is the same. If you are worried about promoting stereotypes, we should talk about that. If you are worried about something being offensive, or making a person uncomfortable, we should talk about that. I think calling it harm, is misleading (because peoples' minds go to things like physical harm, serious harm, not necessarily to being uncomfortable or promoting stereotypes). Now if you feel the net effect of this, leads to harm, fair enough say that too (the use of stereotypes leads to physical harm). I just think folding it all under harm, both clouds the discussion and causes people to take the discussion less seriously because we don't necessarily know what issues people are concerned about. And also to be clear on GAZ 10, I haven't read it so I can't weigh in there. I am just speaking more generally about RPG content that people find troubling for a variety of reasons. [/QUOTE]
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