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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8527267" data-attributes="member: 84112">I disagree. In our (consumer) inability to do the work (WotC and Hasbro can do surveys) we should be discussing all of our points of view and reference and not dismiss ANY input.agreed. Even though the first person I even met to play with was a girl, and to this day she is a close friend and DM/Player I know that since the 90's she has delt with A LOT of BS. Including (but not limited to) when she has brought new boyfriends to places to show them her hobby the assumption was he was the expert and she was 'just arm candy'. there was a thread on here maybe 7-8 years ago where all the women knew where security was to report harrasment at gen con and most of us guys didn't...yes and I celebrate all of the inclusiveness that started in 4e and continued to 5e and I foresee improving still in 6e and 7e and 8e...now this is one I don't know. I have only heard men ever say that "all or primarily damsels" almost every woman I know always focused on the few awesome character/art they got... I also find that in other circles as well. It is interesting what % is offended victims compared to % offended FOR the victims.I agree and as I said above I welcome more inclusiveness not less. I just hope that people remember that 3e was more than 2e and 4e mor than 3e and 5e more than 4...</blockquote>