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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8528059" data-attributes="member: 84112"><p>okay then since it was my example let me (try) to bring this right down to earth.</p><p></p><p>If a jerk is going to make fun of someone and call them bad words, nothing the writers can do will stop them... after all they are the jerk.</p><p>If the writers make an excuse for the jerk he (I don't even feel bad not useing a neutral gender for this example) will feel emboldened.</p><p></p><p>the trick is not "gota make jerks into nice people" its "Don't make jerks feel like they are justified for being jerks"</p><p></p><p>edit: the WoD book I talk about above did HARM. SIGNIFICANT HARM. It didn't mean to. It wasn't some evil guy trying to do evil. It was a mistake. It was a guy trying to write a fun book that didn't do enough thought. </p><p>Now what am I counting as significant harm... it brought a pretty smart (not smartest) good guy I know right up to the edge of falling into a hateful a dangerous group. It was not easy to get him to see why "those people" were not good people. and by "those people" I include people who in the many years since have been arrested multi times. Now would he have become one of the violant and dangerous ones, I doubt it... but he would have swelled there numbers. and what was the minor push in that direction... a gaming book. an idea. because some ideas when not prefaced correctly are dangerous in and of themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8528059, member: 84112"] okay then since it was my example let me (try) to bring this right down to earth. If a jerk is going to make fun of someone and call them bad words, nothing the writers can do will stop them... after all they are the jerk. If the writers make an excuse for the jerk he (I don't even feel bad not useing a neutral gender for this example) will feel emboldened. the trick is not "gota make jerks into nice people" its "Don't make jerks feel like they are justified for being jerks" edit: the WoD book I talk about above did HARM. SIGNIFICANT HARM. It didn't mean to. It wasn't some evil guy trying to do evil. It was a mistake. It was a guy trying to write a fun book that didn't do enough thought. Now what am I counting as significant harm... it brought a pretty smart (not smartest) good guy I know right up to the edge of falling into a hateful a dangerous group. It was not easy to get him to see why "those people" were not good people. and by "those people" I include people who in the many years since have been arrested multi times. Now would he have become one of the violant and dangerous ones, I doubt it... but he would have swelled there numbers. and what was the minor push in that direction... a gaming book. an idea. because some ideas when not prefaced correctly are dangerous in and of themselves. [/QUOTE]
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