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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8528207" data-attributes="member: 84112">as par for the course with you Umbran this is perfectly said. Systemic biases (racism, sexism, and others) are not built out of the single dramatic events that put you in the hospital.&nbsp; They are built out of the hundred little cuts.the goal then (IMO) should be to minimize cuts... not just against one person but against everyone. (and again weighted if you on average get 3 cuts per week and someone else gets 3 per day 1 extra cut almost has to go to you if the choice is you or them)The trouble is (from my point of view) when 2 people who want to dismantle the Systemic biases disagree. This is 100% inevitable to happen (cause we are human) when an outside force that can and wants to mitigate the cuts, is looking at 2 people being cut one who says &quot;Stop doing this and that is one less cut&quot; and the other is saying &quot;If you stop doing that it is one more cut&quot; Ethics and being human is complex and dirty and hard. Sometimes you get to where I am on many social issues (including how D&amp;D should move forward) where you have a concept and are working towards it... but sometimes you end up with this... paralysed not knowing how to help and not being smart enough to find a way NOT to cut one of them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8528207, member: 84112"] as par for the course with you Umbran this is perfectly said. Systemic biases (racism, sexism, and others) are not built out of the single dramatic events that put you in the hospital. They are built out of the hundred little cuts. the goal then (IMO) should be to minimize cuts... not just against one person but against everyone. (and again weighted if you on average get 3 cuts per week and someone else gets 3 per day 1 extra cut almost has to go to you if the choice is you or them) The trouble is (from my point of view) when 2 people who want to dismantle the Systemic biases disagree. This is 100% inevitable to happen (cause we are human) when an outside force that can and wants to mitigate the cuts, is looking at 2 people being cut one who says "Stop doing this and that is one less cut" and the other is saying "If you stop doing that it is one more cut" Ethics and being human is complex and dirty and hard. Sometimes you get to where I am on many social issues (including how D&D should move forward) where you have a concept and are working towards it... but sometimes you end up with this... paralysed not knowing how to help and not being smart enough to find a way NOT to cut one of them. [/QUOTE]

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