Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
The Artificer. Class Review And Thoughts.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9818301" data-attributes="member: 6750235"><p>Not if they're spamming a different spell from the subclass list. There's an opportunity cost in the selection. </p><p></p><p>Not having a good choice in the subclass spell list isn't the same thing as not having a good choice.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe, but being a weaker option is also not the same thing as being a weak option.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They have cantrips to use. Several artificer cantrips use attack rolls. It's a bit of weird argument when you first argued that other artificers have spells on their spell list but in this case no artificer class grants a cantrip in the spell list. They all use the basic artificer cantrips list.</p><p></p><p>Cartographers are attacking with advantage from Faerie Fire that cannot be dropped by breaking concentration as part of the damage benefit equation, and adding damage from that advantage to other party members, and removing a potential cost to getting advantage from another source, and also add their INT mod to damage with those same attacks themselves.</p><p></p><p>That's not bad.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Spellwrought Tattoo is a Wondrous Item and qualifies under the rules. They open up versatility but at 2nd level the artificer has access to cantrips and 1st level spells via tattoo. At 10th level this increases to 2nd and 3rd level spells. At 14th level this increases to 4th and 5th level spells.</p><p></p><p>Tattoos are single shot consumable items so they're essentially just a couple more spells a day at the cost of other options, and the number of plans/items is restrictive enough. DM's can restrict them if they want but they seem okay to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 9818301, member: 6750235"] Not if they're spamming a different spell from the subclass list. There's an opportunity cost in the selection. Not having a good choice in the subclass spell list isn't the same thing as not having a good choice. Maybe, but being a weaker option is also not the same thing as being a weak option. They have cantrips to use. Several artificer cantrips use attack rolls. It's a bit of weird argument when you first argued that other artificers have spells on their spell list but in this case no artificer class grants a cantrip in the spell list. They all use the basic artificer cantrips list. Cartographers are attacking with advantage from Faerie Fire that cannot be dropped by breaking concentration as part of the damage benefit equation, and adding damage from that advantage to other party members, and removing a potential cost to getting advantage from another source, and also add their INT mod to damage with those same attacks themselves. That's not bad. Spellwrought Tattoo is a Wondrous Item and qualifies under the rules. They open up versatility but at 2nd level the artificer has access to cantrips and 1st level spells via tattoo. At 10th level this increases to 2nd and 3rd level spells. At 14th level this increases to 4th and 5th level spells. Tattoos are single shot consumable items so they're essentially just a couple more spells a day at the cost of other options, and the number of plans/items is restrictive enough. DM's can restrict them if they want but they seem okay to me. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
The Artificer. Class Review And Thoughts.
Top