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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 8538495" data-attributes="member: 92511">I noticed in a skimming, that you specifically call out a &quot;rare school&quot; of elemental &quot;Binders&quot; for fae, shadow, celestial or fiendish entities. That makes me think/expect that one of your &quot;Mystic Orders&quot; (which I would rename &quot;Esoteric Orders&quot; for the subclasses, as its a term you use repeatedly in the class description) to be &quot;Binder&quot; or &quot;Circle of the Bound&quot; or -draw directly from your descriptive fluff of the class- as &quot;The Magic Circle.&quot;...and then make the others similar sounding: &quot;The Magic Star (Pentagram)&quot; for the castery swordmages, &quot;The Magic Blade&quot; for the fightery swordmages, &quot;The Magic Chalice (or Cup or something, I am leaning into a Tarot symbology here, it seems&quot; for the cleric-y healery swordmages (bonus &quot;divine&quot; spells, that are still &quot;arcane Esoteric techniques&quot; for game purposes), and a &quot;The Magic Rod/Staff&quot; for the stealthery roguish swordmages.&nbsp; Another potential way to organize subclasses would be by assigning a different Order to a different type of spells/or predominant spelllsit or bonus spells from different spell lists: an Arcane, a Clerical, a Druidic guardian kind of swordmage, a Psionic, maybe an illusion magic specialist, a shadow magic specialist, etc... But then, we're probably getting into what I would consider &quot;way too many subclasses&quot; territory. I think the simplicity and symbolism of a &quot;general/default&quot; swordmage order, and then the four Tarot *(which as you well know, are the four elements) fits and fluffs nicely.Just random thoughts/ideas I'm passing along.I am also unclear...and it might require a more thorough read, about the &quot;spells known&quot;...but in your manual/spellbook...but there's also a Pool mechanic (your Aether points) that's fueling some things but not all...Would it, perhaps, be more...simple, by which I mean/think/hope an overall &quot;tighter&quot; design to just have the Aether mechanic fuel most if not all of your features.Then, there's also, your &quot;Esoteric Techniques&quot;...which read, to me, in the descriptive parts as it would be things you can do in your fighting/swording/weapon side of things...so shouldn't they relate, moreso to abilities you can do with your &quot;Dweomer Weapon&quot; (which I also really like as a term/title, btw)? But, as far as I can tell, is merely a spell list...so why isn't it just the &quot;Swordmage Spell List?&quot;&nbsp; There was something else that caught my eye/made me think 'hmm&quot;...but it's gone now/slipped my mind. I'll post it if it comes back.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 8538495, member: 92511"] I noticed in a skimming, that you specifically call out a "rare school" of elemental "Binders" for fae, shadow, celestial or fiendish entities. That makes me think/expect that one of your "Mystic Orders" (which I would rename "Esoteric Orders" for the subclasses, as its a term you use repeatedly in the class description) to be "Binder" or "Circle of the Bound" or -draw directly from your descriptive fluff of the class- as "The Magic Circle." ...and then make the others similar sounding: "The Magic Star (Pentagram)" for the castery swordmages, "The Magic Blade" for the fightery swordmages, "The Magic Chalice (or Cup or something, I am leaning into a Tarot symbology here, it seems" for the cleric-y healery swordmages (bonus "divine" spells, that are still "arcane Esoteric techniques" for game purposes), and a "The Magic Rod/Staff" for the stealthery roguish swordmages. Another potential way to organize subclasses would be by assigning a different Order to a different type of spells/or predominant spelllsit or bonus spells from different spell lists: an Arcane, a Clerical, a Druidic guardian kind of swordmage, a Psionic, maybe an illusion magic specialist, a shadow magic specialist, etc... But then, we're probably getting into what I would consider "way too many subclasses" territory. I think the simplicity and symbolism of a "general/default" swordmage order, and then the four Tarot *(which as you well know, are the four elements) fits and fluffs nicely. Just random thoughts/ideas I'm passing along. I am also unclear...and it might require a more thorough read, about the "spells known"...but in your manual/spellbook...but there's also a Pool mechanic (your Aether points) that's fueling some things but not all... Would it, perhaps, be more...simple, by which I mean/think/hope an overall "tighter" design to just have the Aether mechanic fuel most if not all of your features. Then, there's also, your "Esoteric Techniques"...which read, to me, in the descriptive parts as it would be things you can do in your fighting/swording/weapon side of things...so shouldn't they relate, moreso to abilities you can do with your "Dweomer Weapon" (which I also really like as a term/title, btw)? But, as far as I can tell, is merely a spell list...so why isn't it just the "Swordmage Spell List?" There was something else that caught my eye/made me think 'hmm"...but it's gone now/slipped my mind. I'll post it if it comes back. [/QUOTE]

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