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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5753104" data-attributes="member: 2067">Thanks for the praise. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />From this perspective, the Athar and the Godsmen would certianly be kindred spirits in believing that mortals have something special in them (though they'd also be kindred spirits to, say, the Sign of One in that regard. A Signer would be eager to agree that the gods are just an illusion!). The Athar take this in an outward-directed path, looking at the people around them, and the gods that control them, and seeking to educate and liberate. The Godsmen, on the other hand, take this in an inward-directed path, looking at how to more properly develop their own inner spark over the course of multiple lifetimes. Any broader education is kind of incidental: the idea is that we all must walk our own path to our own idea of perfect, so it's not like you can teach a guttersnipe to be a prince.From the Athar's perspective, the Godsmen are self-centered. I like the line "becoming part of the grand facade," and I think that captures it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Godsmen are greedy and selfish, in the Athar estimation, wanting to achieve power without sharing it. The Godsmen think we all have to work hard and perfect ourselves to become gods, but that's just not true, say the Athar: we all would be as gods already, if not for the hoarding of divine power by the deities. The Godsmen, like a lot of folks, think the Athar are way too focused on the impossible. The Godsmen also respect the deities as fully-formed individuals who have gone through the reincarnation process and perfected themselves already. They are examples to emulate, not overlords. They have every right to be our leaders, since they are the closest thing the multiverse has to a perfect entity. In the Athar's analogy of the gods as gold-hoarding dragons, the Godsmen say, well, if you want gold, you should probably learn how to get it from that dragon that's sitting on a pile of it. Clearly, that dragon knows something you don't. I think it's a difference that'll come across well when I hit up the Believers themselves. Both factions would agree in broad terms that mortal beings are capable of great things without the gods. The Godsmen would just believe that the gods are entities to emulate, while the Athar would believe that the gods are entities to throw down. DERP. Yes. Changed! Thanks!I figured, if discorporating was the gods' "I'm not dead yet!", the Inescapable trait was the Godslayer's "Oh, no, really, you ARE." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'm a fan of how risky Seal Divinity is, too. It's a reaction, and the Godslayer probably wants to use it on the big solo in the battle, but first the god needs to hit them. Really tempts the Athar character to walk right up to Zeus and bop him on the nose, to provoke a god into trying -- DARING -- to strike them down. Sort of "You get one shot. Better make it a good one." If the Athar survives, the god is shut down significantly. If the Athar doesn't survive...well, I guess the deity showed him who's boss? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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