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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 1474073" data-attributes="member: 1264">Looks good, Leopold. That's pretty much what we concluded in the thread on wizards.com as well. Thanks for going over it in detail!Since I just got the chance to check Savage Species again, let me clear up some details on how it recommends running the "acid test". Not criticizing anyone, this is partially to get things clear in my own head as well, since I haven't done all that much of this stuff:- In one of the other threads, I expressed some puzzlement that SS wanted us to acid test LA's using a one-on-one "duel", even though ECL is supposed to include all those factors that play a role during the whole lifetime of a PC, *not* just a single encounter.Well... Savage Species doesn't actually say to run the acid test as a one-on-one duel between the two comparison characters. It says "Then ask yourself: Would you rather play a monster character at that ECL, or a standard character of that level?"Just a misconception I had, and which I wanted to clarify just in case anyone else thought the same... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />- On what class to use for the acid test... Savage Species says "To do so, look at the highest ability scores. Assign it one level of the class that benefits most from those scores." For animals, I guess that would typically mean using a Rogue (Dex), Cleric or Druid (Wis) for the smaller ones, and Fighter or Barbarian (Str or Con) for the larger ones. (Guess you could argue for Monk or Paladin as well by this reasoning, because many larger animals have very good stats across the line.)- Savage Species never explicitly says that you should compare the critter with one character class with a regular character of the same class. But all their examples definitely do, and the language used in the examples implies so. Of course, it also tends to simplify the comparison...So Leopold, feel like tackling one of the trickier cases?</blockquote>

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