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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 730492" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>I assume you are talking about using the Barbarian class as a Base for a Swashbuckling class, not giving these abilities and calling it a "Barbarian". Please?</p><p></p><p>See my grief with Barbarians at: <a href="http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42235" target="_blank">http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42235</a></p><p></p><p>Now - with that said...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Technically yes the Barbarian template could work for a Swashbuckling style class with a few exceptions.</p><p></p><p>Personally I prefer Swashbuckling classes that center more on defense. The idea is based off the fighting style of the "fighting circle" or "fencing circle" and mastering your motion in that circle so as not to get hit. Along that vein I prefer skills that prevent you from taking Hit Point damage, not giving heaps of Hit Points. The reason for this is that Swashbucklers are not big tough powerhouses like the Barbarian. The large pool of Hit Points represents more than just combat, it also reflects how much brute damage one can take from things like falling off a cliff, resisting physically damaging spells etc. This is why most Swashbuckling classes are low on HD either d6 or d8 usually, but toughen up on AC.</p><p></p><p>As for the other abilities you list, its not a bad idea giving the "Flaire" or Panache using the same style of mechanic as the Rage. This could reflect the Swashbuckler entering the "zone" of the circle to such an extreme that they become one with the flow of combat. I would however swap STR with DEX as you suggest, but instead of a CON boost, I would give yet more boost AC beyond that from DEX (see above argument).</p><p></p><p>Just my quick 2 cents worth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 730492, member: 2167"] I assume you are talking about using the Barbarian class as a Base for a Swashbuckling class, not giving these abilities and calling it a "Barbarian". Please? See my grief with Barbarians at: [url]http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42235[/url] Now - with that said... Technically yes the Barbarian template could work for a Swashbuckling style class with a few exceptions. Personally I prefer Swashbuckling classes that center more on defense. The idea is based off the fighting style of the "fighting circle" or "fencing circle" and mastering your motion in that circle so as not to get hit. Along that vein I prefer skills that prevent you from taking Hit Point damage, not giving heaps of Hit Points. The reason for this is that Swashbucklers are not big tough powerhouses like the Barbarian. The large pool of Hit Points represents more than just combat, it also reflects how much brute damage one can take from things like falling off a cliff, resisting physically damaging spells etc. This is why most Swashbuckling classes are low on HD either d6 or d8 usually, but toughen up on AC. As for the other abilities you list, its not a bad idea giving the "Flaire" or Panache using the same style of mechanic as the Rage. This could reflect the Swashbuckler entering the "zone" of the circle to such an extreme that they become one with the flow of combat. I would however swap STR with DEX as you suggest, but instead of a CON boost, I would give yet more boost AC beyond that from DEX (see above argument). Just my quick 2 cents worth. [/QUOTE]
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